Foster, Robertson etc
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@Rancid-Schnitzel I think it shows how crucial Tony Brown and Clarke Dermody's appointments were in 2014.
Prior to their appointments the Highlanders had finished 9th, 11th, 14th. Afterwards - 5th, 1st, 4th, 5th.
I rate Dermody very highly as a forwards coach.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
My Pick here is Jamie Joseph with Tony Brown as assistant will be the next AB coach.
I think Mary Banks legend has it spot on.I doubt it will happen, but honestly speaking, that's a pretty hard team to beat if they can also add Jase Ryan with the forwards.
I'd have Brown over Holland and Joseph has Super success and international experience.
Does anyone have an idea who a Joseph-Brown team would prefer to coach the forwards?
Joseph coaches the forwards for Japan currently, back in 2019 he was looking to bring Dermody in as scrum/forwards coach which would've seen the original 2015 Highlanders coaching group Joseph, Brown, McLeod, Dermody at the All Blacks, this was before Japan doubled their offer & Jamie opted to stay on.
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@KiwiMurph McLeod will be gone after 2023 regardless of who gets the job, Razor wants McDonald, Ryan, Holland, Hansen.
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@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@KiwiMurph McLeod will be gone after 2023 regardless of who gets the job, Razor wants McDonald, Ryan, Holland, Hansen.
Are you sure about that Mcleod going I would not trust NZR to get that job done.
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@Chris if JJ wants McLeod on his team then surely that proves us plebs on here know Jack shit about the defensive structures running at International level?
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@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris if JJ wants McLeod on his team then surely that proves us plebs on here know Jack shit about the defensive structures running at International level?
Must do, it proves something, and I have no idea what.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris if JJ wants McLeod on his team then surely that proves us plebs on here know Jack shit about the defensive structures running at International level?
I have said it before, but maybe McLeod has been given a shit sandwhich of a defensive system to coach rather than him being the brains behind the system.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris if JJ wants McLeod on his team then surely that proves us plebs on here know Jack shit about the defensive structures running at International level?
It proves JJ isn't the coach we're looking for....
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@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris if JJ wants McLeod on his team then surely that proves us plebs on here know Jack shit about the defensive structures running at International level?
It proves JJ isn't the coach we're looking for....
That was my thought.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris if JJ wants McLeod on his team then surely that proves us plebs on here know Jack shit about the defensive structures running at International level?
I have said it before, but maybe McLeod has been given a shit sandwhich of a defensive system to coach rather than him being the brains behind the system.
Ryan was given a shit show of a forward pack in terms of performance and, well, you know the rest
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@Crazy-Horse yeah who knows aye, we won't know until he is gone or a new coach comes in, if he stays on...
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@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crazy-Horse said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris if JJ wants McLeod on his team then surely that proves us plebs on here know Jack shit about the defensive structures running at International level?
I have said it before, but maybe McLeod has been given a shit sandwhich of a defensive system to coach rather than him being the brains behind the system.
Ryan was given a shit show of a forward pack and, well, you know the rest
strange thing about that If Joseph gets the job there is a real chance Ryan is gone.
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McLeod gets talked up as someone that coaches defence well. I think that most of us have a problem with his defence theories. While the rest of the world looks to pressure through line speed he seems to advocate trying to defend slightly behind the gain line to increase turnover opportunities
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@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
McLeod gets talked up as someone that coaches defence well. I think that most of us have a problem with his defence theories. While the rest of the world looks to pressure through line speed he seems to advocate trying to defend slightly behind the gain line to increase turnover opportunities
Not defending him because I don't know, but are the theories his? I don't recall his work elsewhere.
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@Crazy-Horse tbf though, surely anyone involved with the ABs the last 6 or so years could see our defence has been and still is poor, particularly defending any kind of depth (our goal line d can be very good) so why has it not evolved?
If it is Fozzies call, why isn't McLeod stepping up saying this isn't working...if it is McLeods, then wtf is Fozzie doing allowing it to continue on this long?
That said, as above, maybe we simply have no clue...
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@Bones Highlanders had a passive drift defense under McLeod, unlike the Hurricanes suffocating rush defense under Plumtree in 2016 that didn't concede a single try, the irony is Foster took Plumtree who was a specialist defense coach and appointed him as his forwards coach - talk about setting your team up for imminent failure.
