GOT - there will be spoilers
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<p>That season just got better and better. I watched the last 5 episodes in the last 2 nights. It started slow, but fuck by the end it was nearly the best (behind the first, RS is right, it's fucking brilliant). </p>
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<p>Cracker of a battle scene, but if JS is going to be king, he needs to work on his impulse control a bit, he was pretty much dug out of the shit by his sister. </p>
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<p>Good to see Ramsay get a solid comeuppance. Beaten to a pulp, and then eaten. Nice. Sansa has the best character arc in the show i reckon, look at her in the first 2 episodes of S1, to a girl who walks off smirking while some fluffybunny gets eaten in the background, quite the turnaround.</p>
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<p>I like LF, he's a smart, driven, calculating, ruthless motherfucker. He's also pretty amusing, it's just easy to miss because everything is said in the same tone. Baron's question is a good one, why doesn't he get more love? Good writing really. Everyone is fucked in the head, but we end up rooting for the same people. </p>
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<p>I quite enjoyed just how quickly dragon tits put an end to that little war. "what's that? you want me to surrender? allow me to retort, with these 3 big, fire breathing motherfuckers, and this horde i found". Eat all of the dick slaver dudes. </p>
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<p>Cersei is not the brightest, but that is a cold ass bitch. Surely she is royally fucked now though.</p>
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<p>And so we have progressed to a pretty good point. Main characters are positioned, a few have come back in to the story, and everyone is heading towards one point. About time. </p> -
<p>Having stayed away from this thread I must say it is amusing to read all the comments with the benefit of hindsight.</p>
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<p>Wellll not all the comments the bitch fight Translator v Fish girl got dull real quick but otherwise</p>
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<ol><li>This season sucks. Its so bad. Nothings happening. Man its boring. Writers are worst ever</li>
<li>What a great battle. Although there were loads of logic flaws and there are still way too many pointless plot lines and next week will be a massive disappointment</li>
<li>Amazing. Fucking immense. Writers are genius. Plot lines all coming together nicely. Possibly best season ever.</li>
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<p>Not saying I would have been any better although I've quite liked all this season - but has been a fun read the last dozen pages in one go</p> -
<p>the director for the final 2 episodes of this season and the Zombie battle the season before wont be involved in next season at all....</p>
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<p>I watched the last season over a week. It's the way to do it. If I didn't have kids, I think I would have done it over an evening.</p>
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<p>I'm glad Arya is sort of done with that faceless man shit. Christ that got boring. Loved her final scene though when she kills that bloke.</p>
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<p>I think Sam's story maybe over now too, which is a good thing, as even though he's the only character I think I could actually be, he's a bit dull.</p>
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<p>This season was disappointingly lacking in white walkers. A decent enough fight ending in Hodor's death, but I dig those guys.</p>
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<p>I think next season we are going to see Cersei take it to new levels. Can't wait!</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="594117" data-time="1467686722"><p>I watched the last season over a week. It's the way to do it. If I didn't have kids, I think I would have done it over an evening.<br><br>
I'm glad Arya is sort of done with that faceless man shit. Christ that got boring. Loved her final scene though when she kills that bloke.<br><br>
I think Sam's story maybe over now too, which is a good thing, as even though he's the only character I think I could actually be, he's a bit dull.<br><br>
This season was disappointingly lacking in white walkers. A decent enough fight ending in Hodor's death, but I dig those guys.<br><br>
I think next season we are going to see Cersei take it to new levels. Can't wait!</p></blockquote>
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I think you will find Sam won't be over, in fact I imagine he might be of greater importance now. He's in the most knowledgeable location in Westeros.<br>
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<p>I think you will find Sam won't be over, in fact I imagine he might be of greater importance now. He's in the most knowledgeable location in Westeros.<br>
He might find how to make dragon glass or wildfire, might even find clues regarding Jons parents..</p>
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<p>You might be right, in the books I expect there will be much more.</p>
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<p>He may help out, but I think his story is done. Helping out Jon etc may well happen.</p>
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He may help out, but I think his story is done. Helping out Jon etc may well happen.<br><br>
I thought Jon Snow's parents was sorted now? He's half Stark / Half Targareyn, no?</p></blockquote>
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We know who his parents are but no one in Westeros do ( except Bran, Howland Reed)<br>
His birth won't be recorded but there's a chance Rhagaer and Lyana secretly married. That could be in there<br><br>
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As Virgil mentions, I think Sam will play a very big role. There must very good reasons for him being in Oldtown and nicking his dad's sword.
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<p>Agreed M4L, an absolutely smashing end to what had been up until then, a seemlingly fairly average season. But when viewed together it is definitely a season where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.</p>
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<p>Those earlier episodes, whilst often boardering on the mundane and were frustrating by the pacing and seeming lack of progress, in actuality set up the extrordinary last two episdoes to make it truly a fantastic season.</p>
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<p>I got home last night, being Monday and normally I'm chomping at the bit to sit down and watch GoT, and suffered mild depression that the season is actually over and we are all going to have to wait 3/4 of a year before we get our next fix.</p>
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<p>Season 7</p>
<p>The battle for the Iron Throne</p>
<p>Queen Cersei and whatever support she might have left versus Dany, and the combined might of High Garden and Dorne</p>
<p>Obviously Jon Snow will chose a side and that will most likely be alongside Dany as it is revealed he is half Stark, half Targaryen and will naturally support his cousin(?).</p>
<p>Arya the assasin will make her way through her list and maybe remove Cersei herself meaning a war for the IT is not required, or will she be reunited with Jon and Sansa first rather than going on a killing spree?</p>
<p>No doubt, a significant subplot will be the rise of Night's King and the Others, in particular chasing Bran through the wall and into the Stark lands and the lower part of Westeros.</p>
<p>The one thing that will shit me is if Bran actually does cross the wall knowning that by doing so, he will compromise the magic spells that have been woven into the wall and allow the Others and their un-dead army to pass the one barrier that stops them from crossing into the southern lands.</p>
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<p>Season 8</p>
<p>The final battle for Westeros</p>
<p>Dany, Jon, Bran, etc versus the Night's King and the rest of the Others and their undead army</p>
<p>Dragons taking on the undead with fire. We know that wights must be burned but we don't know the effect of fire on one of the Others.</p>
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<p>The good guys need to gather as much Valaryian steel and dragon glass as they can find.</p>
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<p>For me, GRRM had better get this next book out by then. He's released a number of chapters, which I have refused to read but as yet, no release date has been set for the Winds of Winter.</p> -
<p>Does anybody else suspec tthat GRRM hasn't released as the books are going to go in a different direction to the tv series?</p>
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<p>TV on the whole, and none more so than in American TV, does not all the bad guy to "win".</p>
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<p>Yet GRRM has never really been bothered about that.</p>
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<p>It wouldn't surprise me to see Jon Snow or Danaerys to win on the TV show, but the white walkers to win in the books.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="594364" data-time="1467764736"><p>Does anybody else suspec tthat GRRM hasn't released as the books are going to go in a different direction to the tv series?<br><br>
TV on the whole, and none more so than in American TV, does not all the bad guy to "win".<br><br>
Yet GRRM has never really been bothered about that.<br><br>
It wouldn't surprise me to see Jon Snow or Danaerys to win on the TV show, but the white walkers to win in the books.</p></blockquote>
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Yeah wouldn't surprise me, the tv is less likely to have a bad guy win then the books <br>
Speaking of which, have finally gotten back into them. Nearly finished A Feast for Crows, funnily enough just read the chapter where Jamie is involved in the Riverrun siege( treated like a bitch by Blackfish) The Sparrows have yet to take over Kings Landing etc.<br><br>
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<p>dunno, GRRRRRM has been heavily involved in the TV stuff, and I believe he will have them using some of his alternative storylines while the books will follow their own path (that will be fairly similr but with some differences I reckon) to give readers something extra.</p>
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<p>I doubt the final outcome will be different in the books but the path there now appears to be vastly different. For instance, it wouldn't surprise me if Stannis survives a lot longer and I suspect Brienne won't be much of force any more. Theon is also toast. And the mighty Blackish is still alive!!!!</p>
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<p>I think the wildcard in both the series and books is Euron. In the book he has some kind of Dragon horn. If he can use that to control or summon dragons then that would be a massive game changer. That prick has travelled far and wide and has obviously learnt some interesting shit.</p> -
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<p>I doubt the final outcome will be different in the books but the path there now appears to be vastly different. For instance, it wouldn't surprise me if Stannis survives a lot longer and I suspect Brienne won't be much of force any more. Theon is also toast. And the mighty Blackish is still alive!!!!</p>
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<p>I think the wildcard in both the series and books is Euron. In the book he has some kind of Dragon horn. If he can use that to control or summon dragons then that would be a massive game changer. That prick has travelled far and wide and has obviously learnt some interesting shit.</p>
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<p>but not enough to kill the spawn of the King you just killed as you try to usurp his throne as well ;)</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="594386" data-time="1467767692"><p>I doubt the final outcome will be different in the books but the path there now appears to be vastly different. For instance, it wouldn't surprise me if Stannis survives a lot longer and I suspect Brienne won't be much of force any more. Theon is also toast. And the mighty Blackish is still alive!!!!<br><br>
I think the wildcard in both the series and books is Euron. In the book he has some kind of Dragon horn. If he can use that to control or summon dragons then that would be a massive game changer. That prick has travelled far and wide and has obviously learnt some interesting shit.</p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It wouldn't surprise me to see Jon Snow or Danaerys to win on the TV show, but the white walkers to win in the books.</span></p>
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<p>We were talking about this at work and came to the conclusion that option c will occur i.e. all main contenders for the iron throne die and that dude who is still rowing (the bastard son of Robert Baratheon) is made King.</p>
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<p>We also predicted that next season Dragon Tits will seize the iron throne from Cersei Lannister, who will accidentally die at the hands of Jamie or Tyrion, and will become a deranged leader like her old man leading to Jon Snow having to fight her for the House of Dragon Tits. </p>
