All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023
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@Bones Havili is clearly a second five and Rieko is clearly a centre (as long as you don't ask Tana).
Tupaea is mainly a 2nd-five, though they've used him at centre. I don't really know where they would use ALB or Jack if everyone is available.
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@Bones An interesting point about Rieko - that I was going to make elsewhere - is that he's currently 25 and with a few work-ons.
Ma'a Nonu didn't even make the RWC in 2007 when he was 25, so even if this next one turns out not to be Rieko's World Cup there's a fair bit of promise for 2027 and 2031.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@Bones An interesting point about Rieko - that I was going to make elsewhere - is that he's currently 25 and with a few work-ons.
Ma'a Nonu didn't even make the RWC in 2007 when he was 25, so even if this next one turns out not to be Rieko's World Cup there's a fair bit of promise for 2027 and 2031.
Yeah, it's a great point, but as in a couple of other threads....is he even going to stick around? It would suck if he ups and fucks off after next year without even getting into a really good groove.
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@Bones said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@nostrildamus if I can try and decipher that, I think you're saying you disagree.
Well done!
Only RM BB and DH are playing well below super level from what I have seen? Maybe Shannon? So I'd say 3 or 4 at most but perhaps you have more .. -
@Bones Certainly hope so - it would suck.
I'm a bit concerned about our first fives post-RWC as well. I'd be surprised if Beaudy sticks around, DMac has just taken a sabbatical and RM is making noises.
I don't really want to have to test the Bryn Gatland theory.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@nostrildamus if I can try and decipher that, I think you're saying you disagree.
Well done!
Only RM BB and DH are playing well below super level from what I have seen? Maybe Shannon? So I'd say 3 or 4 at most but perhaps you have more ..Akira. Christie. Clarke. Fainga'anuku.
Seemingly a few guys that come from the more successful super teams - perhaps that points to what works for coaches at super rugby, doesn't work in tests? Or the coaching is a step down once you step up...
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@Bones Certainly hope so - it would suck.
I'm a bit concerned about our first fives post-RWC as well. I'd be surprised if Beaudy sticks around, DMac has just taken a sabbatical and RM is making noises.
I don't really want to have to test the Bryn Gatland theory.
Boom boom goes the drum.
Give us landers DH and we'll give you a test first five for the next RWC cycle.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@Bones You've been watching too much of the 2020 NPC Final!
(Mitch Hunt got carted off after 15 minutes and Dave and Tim O'Malley got us home).
He's exactly the kind of ten we seem to be screaming out for I reckon, just needs time there. Smart, good distributor, big boot, can cart it up from 10 if needed, throws an intercept every couple of games.
