Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final
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Drouin's last kick might be the talking point, but it was a couple of other muffed opportunities prior to that which held France back more IMHO (kicks out on the full, certain other decisions). I think they played a bit too much territory at points.
The professionalism of the French was evident in the execution of their lineout and maul, as well as their defensive ruck work.
The ABs obviously brought a fair bit of skill that didn't pay anything like a dividend until they also started to hit hard up front - France just fanned out and nullified the wide play and the dinky little dropoff passes. Speed of French defensive line notable, if occasionally offside
Next week is the clash pretty much everyone wanted.
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@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.You seem to be advocating for us to not take the women's game seriously? Just enjoy it for shits and giggles but don't worry if we play well or not? Who cares what tactics they use as long as everyone has a bit of fun? That's the attitude I'd take towards watching a kids game, not top level professional sport.
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@Stargazer said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
Must be an over-confident Wiki-editor from NZ, or a pessimist from England. Apparently we've already won the Final (only couldn't find the flag). We just have to wait by how much.
I suspect that is just the data field with the NZ time zone.
and 2021? Needs a better editor. -
@nostrildamus No, officially this is the 2021 RWC. They use that year everywhere. It's correct.
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@Stargazer said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@nostrildamus No, officially this is the 2021 RWC. They use that year everywhere. It's correct.
True.
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What a game! That was seriously awesome and a great advert for the women's game!
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
What a game! That was seriously awesome and a great advert for the women's game!
Despite all the errors, the cards, the crazy sequences, that was a fantastic match. France have excellent drive from their forwards and really put us under the pump. And then we had superb moments with our interplay between forwards and backs.
Either team would’ve been a deserved winner with how the game played out. But the wairua of 2011 came across the hallowed turf of Eden Park and once again a one point win against the French is the result. Bring on the Poms.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.You seem to be advocating for us to not take the women's game seriously? Just enjoy it for shits and giggles but don't worry if we play well or not? Who cares what tactics they use as long as everyone has a bit of fun? That's the attitude I'd take towards watching a kids game, not top level professional sport.
Not at all.
My comment was more about “uneducated “ negativity.
If you start from that kids game space then build up expectations based on the nuances and abilities there’s a better understanding.
Don’t judge it like you would an ABs game and it is more enjoyable. -
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
Searching (and failing) for the right words to use.
No please, find some more to tell us how uneducated we are. It won't make you look like more of a fluffybunny at all.
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@Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
Searching (and failing) for the right words to use.
No please, find some more to tell us how uneducated we are. It won't make you look like more of a fluffybunny at all.
Unskilled? Uninformed? Ignorant? Lowbrow? Unenlightened? Simple? Backward?
Thanks for the opportunity.
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@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
Searching (and failing) for the right words to use.
No please, find some more to tell us how uneducated we are. It won't make you look like more of a fluffybunny at all.
Unskilled? Uninformed? Ignorant? Lowbrow? Unenlightened? Simple? Backward?
Thanks for the opportunity.
Anytime nzbloke
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@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@No-Quarter said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.You seem to be advocating for us to not take the women's game seriously? Just enjoy it for shits and giggles but don't worry if we play well or not? Who cares what tactics they use as long as everyone has a bit of fun? That's the attitude I'd take towards watching a kids game, not top level professional sport.
Not at all.
My comment was more about “uneducated “ negativity.
If you start from that kids game space then build up expectations based on the nuances and abilities there’s a better understanding.
Don’t judge it like you would an ABs game and it is more enjoyable.Treating the women's game as a level above watching a kids game, to be enjoyed and not analysed, is probably one of the most offensive things you could say about it. Surely the goal is to have the BFs taken as seriously as the ABs, that's never going to happen with attitudes like yours.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@No-Quarter said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
@Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.You seem to be advocating for us to not take the women's game seriously? Just enjoy it for shits and giggles but don't worry if we play well or not? Who cares what tactics they use as long as everyone has a bit of fun? That's the attitude I'd take towards watching a kids game, not top level professional sport.
Not at all.
My comment was more about “uneducated “ negativity.
If you start from that kids game space then build up expectations based on the nuances and abilities there’s a better understanding.
Don’t judge it like you would an ABs game and it is more enjoyable.Treating the women's game as a level above watching a kids game, to be enjoyed and not analysed, is probably one of the most offensive things you could say about it. Surely the goal is to have the BFs taken as seriously as the ABs, that's never going to happen with attitudes like yours.
Give it a rest. You are taking my comments to a totally unintended place.
I used the words 'nuance' and 'understanding' and particularly said 'same but different'.
I have never said to judge it as an inferior product or said it was like a kids game.All I was trying to do was suggest a way to approach the games for those that don't follow the women game apart from scores. Reset your expectations, not lower them. For example, long clearance kickers are rare so don't wonder why teams try to run out of their 22. Simple things like that. I know it took me a while to tune in and thought it would help others get the same level of enjoyment out of the game instead of some of the negative criticisms that were being thrown around.
Positive analysis and comments, all good. I'd just rather the negativity stayed away for a while.
If taking the BFs as seriously as the ABs means dour moaning spectators critiquing every act and decision and expecting deadly serious players that can only smile after a big win then yeah, you can fuck off with that aim.
Check out that crowd yesterday. That was like the old days of the sevens circuit. Families having fun. If the game wants to be healthy in the long term, long may things stay like this. Competitive, hard exciting games where mistakes aren't the end of the world. -
@canefan said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
That was a great spectacle and in the end who would have thought it would be shades of 2011 with another French kicker having the last chance to win the game. Its going to be massive next weekend. Managed to get some tickets so I'll be there ⬛️
We tried to get 2, only 'obscured view' available now In fact all gone it appears