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    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
    I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
    It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
    Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
    Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

    It’s because we have a higher expectation of the mens side because of the legacy they’ve built. An All Black test match crowd is totally different because the expectation for the men to perform is higher and the crowd is usually more serious.

    With the Black Ferns, they are starting to create their own legacy but they don’t have the same weight on their shoulders because there isn’t that same pressure to perform.

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    @Canes4life I agree the Silver Ferns' expectation is low, because many here haven't seen much of the Black Ferns from previous World Cups. A lot of followers of women's rugby, however, will disagree. The Black Ferns have won 5 of the 6 women's RWCs. There is a huge legacy. The Black Ferns talk about that all the time. Of course there is a lot of expectation.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Canes4life said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
    I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
    It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
    Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
    Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

    It’s because we have a higher expectation of the mens side because of the legacy they’ve built. An All Black test match crowd is totally different because the expectation for the men to perform is higher and the crowd is usually more serious.

    With the Black Ferns, they are starting to create their own legacy but they don’t have the same weight on their shoulders because there isn’t that same pressure to perform.

    Disagree. They have a massive legacy already but choose not to be weighed down by it.
    The enjoyment from the players is as much in being there and playing.
    I enjoy watching players enjoying themselves, smiling, laughing, dancing then smashing and bashing.
    Hope it stays that way.
    Like the BF 7s they are a breath of fresh air to a game that is getting stale by the day.
    It’s not a criticism of anyone but some here have tried all year to get others on this ride and maybe understand the womens game is same but different but very entertaining. Glad that as many as possible are hopping on the bus, just try and except the differences and come for the ride.

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    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
    I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
    It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
    Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
    Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

    Nah. We enjoy sport how we do, including post match analysis. If we didn't care we wouldn't worry.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Game was insane - so much ball in play time and sheer ambition.

    Crowd was massive in terms of noise on the broadcast, at least for Stan.

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    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Disagree. They have a massive legacy already but choose not to be weighed down by it.
    The enjoyment from the players is as much in being there and playing.
    I enjoy watching players enjoying themselves, smiling, laughing, dancing then smashing and bashing.
    Hope it stays that way.

    Well said - look at the BFs singing the anthem before the game. So much joy on their faces.

    Whereas if any of the men's players looked half that happy, pretty much everyone on here would be going the grump that they're not taking it seriously.

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    Drouin's last kick might be the talking point, but it was a couple of other muffed opportunities prior to that which held France back more IMHO (kicks out on the full, certain other decisions). I think they played a bit too much territory at points.

    The professionalism of the French was evident in the execution of their lineout and maul, as well as their defensive ruck work.

    The ABs obviously brought a fair bit of skill that didn't pay anything like a dividend until they also started to hit hard up front - France just fanned out and nullified the wide play and the dinky little dropoff passes. Speed of French defensive line notable, if occasionally offside 😉

    Next week is the clash pretty much everyone wanted.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Must be an over-confident Wiki-editor from NZ, or a pessimist from England. Apparently we've already won the Final (only couldn't find the flag). We just have to wait by how much.

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    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
    I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
    It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
    Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
    Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

    You seem to be advocating for us to not take the women's game seriously? Just enjoy it for shits and giggles but don't worry if we play well or not? Who cares what tactics they use as long as everyone has a bit of fun? That's the attitude I'd take towards watching a kids game, not top level professional sport.

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    @Stargazer said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Must be an over-confident Wiki-editor from NZ, or a pessimist from England. Apparently we've already won the Final (only couldn't find the flag). We just have to wait by how much.

    68982db0-3582-4ba3-8173-0e29537ada6c-image.png

    I suspect that is just the data field with the NZ time zone.
    and 2021? Needs a better editor.

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    @nostrildamus No, officially this is the 2021 RWC. They use that year everywhere. It's correct.

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    @Stargazer said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @nostrildamus No, officially this is the 2021 RWC. They use that year everywhere. It's correct.

    True.

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    What a game! That was seriously awesome and a great advert for the women's game!

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    What a game! That was seriously awesome and a great advert for the women's game!

    Despite all the errors, the cards, the crazy sequences, that was a fantastic match. France have excellent drive from their forwards and really put us under the pump. And then we had superb moments with our interplay between forwards and backs.

    Either team would’ve been a deserved winner with how the game played out. But the wairua of 2011 came across the hallowed turf of Eden Park and once again a one point win against the French is the result. Bring on the Poms.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @No-Quarter said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
    I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
    It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
    Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
    Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

    You seem to be advocating for us to not take the women's game seriously? Just enjoy it for shits and giggles but don't worry if we play well or not? Who cares what tactics they use as long as everyone has a bit of fun? That's the attitude I'd take towards watching a kids game, not top level professional sport.

    Not at all.
    My comment was more about “uneducated “ negativity.
    If you start from that kids game space then build up expectations based on the nuances and abilities there’s a better understanding.
    Don’t judge it like you would an ABs game and it is more enjoyable.

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    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    uneducated

    🙄 Thanks dan

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    @Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Searching (and failing) for the right words to use.

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    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
    

    Searching (and failing) for the right words to use.

    No please, find some more to tell us how uneducated we are. It won't make you look like more of a fluffybunny at all.

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    @Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @Bones said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:
    

    Searching (and failing) for the right words to use.

    No please, find some more to tell us how uneducated we are. It won't make you look like more of a fluffybunny at all.

    Unskilled? Uninformed? Ignorant? Lowbrow? Unenlightened? Simple? Backward?

    Thanks for the opportunity.

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