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    Not Willi Heinz? Thought they would rush him in. I think Ratima became a bit hesitant this season but improved at the end. I think Roe has best kicking game in nz for a 9 but do admit he could be more robust.

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    @ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

    Not Willi Heinz? Thought they would rush him in. I think Ratima became a bit hesitant this season but improved at the end. I think Roe has best kicking game in nz for a 9 but do admit he could be more robust.

    Hasn't he played for England?

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial feels like semantics now, yeah, i think some people are selected "just in case" as in building depth. and some times that depth goes past the obvious selections, i feel in the past the 4th or 5th choice or a bolter for a position was normally someone young so you were developing long term talent...but now it feels like we are just as likely to see a 28 year old come out of the blue...they cant be seen as a long term option

    I guess it depends on what your definition of long term option is. Let’s say Aumua makes the ABs because of a combination of his form and injury to one or two others (not an unusual path) and he finds his feet in test footy quickly. He could still have 5 or even 6 years of test footy (some recent ABs have played till 34 or 35).

    That would be a lot more than past ABs who were selected at 22 or 23 who have played a few tests, been on the fringe for a year or two and then gone overseas to play club footy as an “All Black International”.

    The thing with pro team sport selections is that it’s subjective and each is on its merits for the particular circumstances. Let’s not forget we have had injuries galore in the midfield over a number of years so building depth would be a priority for any coach/selector.

    using PGS again as the example...it wasn;t a mistake, they didnt select him as an accident, he was chosen to at most play 20min, in the past i think we would have had someone younger come on to play 10 minute bursts and you could legitimately say they were selected with the potential to go on and play more.

    One could easily argue that the PGS was a genuine look because we had for arguments sake player X who was in and out because of injury and player Y who they weren’t sure about and player Z playing lock and filling in. Again this sort of selection has been a feature on the past. If you start looking at other factors like who the player is also eligible to play for or worrying about “will they actually be long term”, then you might miss something that will help you immediately.

    So yeah, sometime i think they freak out that we might not have the depth they want and so they pick people just in case that depth is needed

    Been happening for the last 15 years since the evolution of the full use of the 22/23. I’d say but don’t have any hard data to back it up, but injuries are far more common so not being caught out is pretty important.

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    Who is the replacement captain with Patrick Tuipulotu being elevated. TJ might be in the running maybe.

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    @Stargazer Pouri Rakete Stones been called into the All Black XV

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    @Steven-Harris So who did Hodgman piss off?

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    @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

    Who is the replacement captain with Patrick Tuipulotu being elevated. TJ might be in the running maybe.

    The Barretts are expected to return next week so I think that DMac and Tuipulotu are only temporary replacements for the Japan test. Foster is saying that they should join up with the AB XV squad before they play.

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    @Tim does appear he’s not favour with this selection group

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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks XV:

    @Stargazer Pouri Rakete Stones been called into the All Black XV

    Shit, does that mean he's signed for Canterbury for next year? 😉

    Anyway, that's awesome for him.

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    @booboo yes but this is not a capture team so could be picked if 3 years stand down is up by rwc. Not sure on timing there.

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    @ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

    @booboo yes but this is not a capture team do could be picked if 3 years stand down is up by rwc. Not sure on timing there.

    2019 when he last played, but dude is 36 next month.

    Absolutely no point in selecting him.

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    @booboo several in the squad meet that criteria IMO.

    @Steven-Harris you must be stoked with that!

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

    @booboo several in the squad meet that criteria IMO.

    Only Bryce Heem.

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    @Nepia got another year on his Canes contract.

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    @Tim In all fairness in his last couple of games he has been unremarkable.

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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks XV:

    @Nepia got another year on his Canes contract.

    I don’t care about them, I’m only concerned with NPC. I’d prefer he go to Crusades, he’ll definitely be an AB then.

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    @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

    Who is the replacement captain with Patrick Tuipulotu being elevated. TJ might be in the running maybe.

    Isn't Pat T expected to go back to XVs straight after Japan. Same with Mac unless they decide to keep him around in place of Jordan.

    Barretts expected to join the squad during the week but just won't be up for selection.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

    @Steven-Harris So who did Hodgman piss off?

    Everyone looking for a decent player 😉

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    @ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

    @booboo yes but this is not a capture team do could be picked if 3 years stand down is up by rwc. Not sure on timing there.

    I wouldn’t be selecting Heinz on form alone. Drummond has been much better this campaign.

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    Guys, I really think that @ARHS might just have been joking about selecting an ancient and mediocre Canterbury player ...

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