Transformer Boks v Irish Projects - Ireland's SA Tour 2016 - Series Decider
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Now that was a team try of running rugby. <br><br>
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And another three from Paddy's boot.
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Lovely cross kick and catch by Pietersen to cross the line. And the conversion. <br><br>
SA 13-10 at the break. -
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<p>Judging by the June tests only, I'd have NZ as 1, AUS as 2nd and SA as 3rd for TRC. Argentina sucks, so they'll be last anyways.</p>
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<p>Situation normal then.</p>
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<p>Ireland squandered a great chance to win 3-0 in the Republic.</p> -
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<p>uh oh, Irish player fell ugly, Le Roux might be in trouble, YC. Probably a bit lucky not to get sent off, but it was a fair challenge. The rule is stupid whereby they dish out the sentence based on how the other player falls. He was clearly going for the ball only</p>
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<p>I read about this before seeing this and was expecting the worst challenge known to man. A player shouldn't get sent off for clearly going for the ball so I don't think he was lucky.</p> -
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<p>I read about this before seeing this and was expecting the worst challenge known to man. A player shouldn't get sent off for clearly going for the ball so I don't think he was lucky.</p>
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<p>Same as tip tackles though - how someone lands is Red-Yellow-Pen.</p>
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<p>In this case le Roux (like Stander two weeks ago) didn't have a realistic chance of challenging. Naholos one was closer. This area of the game needs attention and cleaning up ASAP - it is getting too risky to contest kicks, which is rubbish.</p> -
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<p>Same as tip tackles though - how someone lands is Red-Yellow-Pen.</p>
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<p>In this case le Roux (like Stander two weeks ago) didn't have a realistic chance of challenging. Naholos one was closer. This area of the game needs attention and cleaning up ASAP - <strong>it is getting too risky to contest kicks, which is rubbish.</strong></p>
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<p>That's my point. Basically you just need to get higher than the other player and if anything happens you receive the penalty.</p>
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<p>Stander and Le Roux's cases aren't similar, he was trying to charge down a kick and took out the kicker, Le Roux was clearly going for the ball and I disagree he had no chance to catch it - hindsight tells us the Irish player leapt at the exact right time and spot to catch the ball but that's not always the case. A running player doesn't have the benefit of hindsight and it's their duty to contest the ball.</p> -
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<p>That's my point. Basically you just need to get higher than the other player and if anything happens you receive the penalty.</p>
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<p>Stander and Le Roux's cases aren't similar, he was trying to charge down a kick and took out the kicker, Le Roux was clearly going for the ball and I disagree he had no chance to catch it - hindsight tells us the Irish player leapt at the exact right time and spot to catch the ball but that's not always the case. <strong>A running player doesn't have the benefit of hindsight and it's their duty to contest the ball.</strong></p>
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<p>But this opinion differs very much from the way these laws have been applied. It's been proven that the running player's duty is make sure the catcher doesn't land on his head, e.g. Emery, Payne, The stormer</p>
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<p>Emery did what le Roux did. The Stormer basically did what Le Roux did</p>
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<p>Naholo did what Le Roux did and we were told that if the welshman had landed more dangerously that naholo would face a higher punishment.</p>
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<p>Working on what we've been told that the landing determines your fate, well what's worse than landing on your neck and then not being able to play in the rest of the game.? Le Roux knew he dodged a bullet as did all the commentators.</p>
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<p>It's not about if the law is right or wrong, it's a bout consistent application of the law</p>
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<p>I'm fucking glad Jackson will never ref my team, he's all over the place with his rulings</p> -
<p>That he's been cited makes it a greater mockery.</p>
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<p><strong>But this opinion differs very much from the way these laws have been applied. </strong>It's been proven that the running player's duty is make sure the catcher doesn't land on his head, e.g. Emery, Payne, The stormer</p>
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<p>Emery did what le Roux did. The Stormer basically did what Le Roux did</p>
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<p>Naholo did what Le Roux did and we were told that if the welshman had landed more dangerously that naholo would face a higher punishment.</p>
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<p>Working on what we've been told that the landing determines your fate, well what's worse than landing on your neck and then not being able to play in the rest of the game.? Le Roux knew he dodged a bullet as did all the commentators.</p>
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<p>It's not about if the law is right or wrong, it's a bout consistent application of the law</p>
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<p>I'm fucking glad Jackson will never ref my team, he's all over the place with his rulings</p>
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<p>I can't help it if the WR and their refs have got their interpretation wrong. ;)</p> -
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Not really sure how supporting England helps those SA players who continue to play their hearts out for the Boks. I hate quotas but I can only hope that they continue to spread the game in the country so that rugby can grow across all races. Not so much that the Boks will have a particular racial make up but so that a diverse fan base can speak out against the politicians. -
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<p><strong>Not really sure how supporting England helps those SA players who continue to play their hearts out for the Boks</strong>. I hate quotas but I can only hope that they continue to spread the game in the country so that rugby can grow across all races. Not so much that the Boks will have a particular racial make up but so that a diverse fan base can speak out against the politicians.</p>
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<p>Becasue the players that are playing aren't the players that should be playing.</p>
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<p>I can totally see why they are disheartened with the boks</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/15177/10325691/south-africas-willie-le-roux-banned-for-tackle-during-deciding-ireland-test'>http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/15177/10325691/south-africas-willie-le-roux-banned-for-tackle-during-deciding-ireland-test</a></p>
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<p>Le Roux banned for a week. Of super rugby. For an offence they consider was worthy of a red card.</p>
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<p>Justified frustration from the Irish I suspect - given the environment, whatever your thoughts, they are ruling that shit as red all day long these days. Ref bottled it</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="592141" data-time="1466985268"><p>Becasue the players that are playing aren't the players that should be playing.<br>
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I can totally see why they are disheartened with the boks</p></blockquote>
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I would say most of the players in the team deserve to be there, it's hardly their fault if there are a handful of players who shouldn't be there, I take my hat off to them for staying in SA and wearing the Bok jersey, if it were my team I would give the players my full support. -
Its not my country but I do know a fair bit about the place and the only thing I can say with all certainty is its not the players fault even the ones who should not be there. It's a complicated country with a complicated history, rugby fans like you and me say it's awful and should stop but unfortunately a lot of people still associate the Boks with a pretty ugly history. I think it can change but I think exposing as many people to the game will bring that about. In the meantime you just hope the Boks can hang on until that happens.
