Ukraine
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@NTA to make them buy more gas! oh, wait!
I read the strikes were on civilian power stations, but I have no idea if there is/was a military rationale for hitting them - or if it's just Russia kicking some toys over on their way back to their border.
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@antipodean just wait for Russian to accidentally nuke them instead of the Ukrainian forces
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@MajorRage Pretty fucken scary to be fair, as long as Putin is in power this war is not going to end. He seems to be escalating in terms of numbers, 3-400,000 soldiers is a lot of cannon fodder for Ukraine and the west to get through. I wonder if this is exactly how the west viewed Hitler as he marched into Poland. I just feel sick at all the innocent people that have died and will continue to die in their thousands. Fuck humans and our stupid brains that allow us to be brainwashed and tribal.
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@MajorRage Pretty fucken scary to be fair, as long as Putin is in power this war is not going to end. He seems to be escalating in terms of numbers, 3-400,000 soldiers is a lot of cannon fodder for Ukraine and the west to get through. I wonder if this is exactly how the west viewed Hitler as he marched into Poland. I just feel sick at all the innocent people that have died and will continue to die in their thousands. Fuck humans and our stupid brains that allow us to be brainwashed and tribal.
I think Putin is a history buff. I expect he knows what happened when the last Tsar entered into an ill advised and catastrophic war.....
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I think Putin is a history buff. I expect he knows what happened when the last Tsar entered into an ill advised and catastrophic war.....
If you look at Putin's objectives and philosophy - Greater Russia, keeping NATO away from his doorstep, global influence, splitting the West - he's already lost big, big time.
Add into the mix he's destroyed his energy leverage on Europe, lost half his navy, make his much-vaunted military look like idiots and managed to re-arm Europe's biggest economy (Germany) against him and it's a cluster-fuck of epic proportions. Just pisses me off tens of thousands will die before it ends.
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@MajorRage said in Ukraine:
Would recommend everybody reads this.
I’ve not fact checked any of it, but it’s a pretty interesting read
Good god, that's some delusional shit right there.
Has anyone told the Japanese or ze Germans that they're still being occupied by the US? Hope they don't read this, it could be WW3!!!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Ukraine:
I think Putin is a history buff. I expect he knows what happened when the last Tsar entered into an ill advised and catastrophic war.....
If you look at Putin's objectives and philosophy - Greater Russia, keeping NATO away from his doorstep, global influence, splitting the West - he's already lost big, big time.
Add into the mix he's destroyed his energy leverage on Europe, lost half his navy, make his much-vaunted military look like idiots and managed to re-arm Europe's biggest economy (Germany) against him and it's a cluster-fuck of epic proportions. Just pisses me off tens of thousands will die before it ends.
As he scoops up hundreds of thousands of unwilling conscripts I am sure this will piss some ordinary Russians off.
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They appear to be struggling to organise and equip the latest conscripts let alone ramping things up to those kind of numbers. That would be literally feeding humans into a meat grinder, or freezer if you consider how gnarly winter conditions will be.
But his speech is terrifying. But will I care (as a Russian fulla) that much when I've been conscripted and am learning more and more about how the war is going?
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@Paekakboyz said in Ukraine:
They appear to be struggling to organise and equip the latest conscripts let alone ramping things up to those kind of numbers. That would be literally feeding humans into a meat grinder, or freezer if you consider how gnarly winter conditions will be.
But his speech is terrifying. But will I care (as a Russian fulla) that much when I've been conscripted and am learning more and more about how the war is going?
I know it's not 1918. But how much unrest will there need to be until Putin's cronies start thinking about axing him to save themselves?
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Seeing Putin still petrified of germs is so weird. The compliant crowd at his annexation speech were miles back from his rostrum.
A tough guy so scared of a virus 80% of the globe have already caught, is such a weird visual contrast.
I literally thought that was a WW2 reference to the Germans when I read that
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@canefan surely there are many attempts ongoing to get a bead on Putin. The way he holds power makes it hard to get a handle on what the people around him actually believe. Also hard to tell if foreign powers are lining someone/s up for a takeover versus just zapping Putin and seeing what happens.
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@Paekakboyz said in Ukraine:
@canefan surely there are many attempts ongoing to get a bead on Putin. The way he holds power makes it hard to get a handle on what the people around him actually believe. Also hard to tell if foreign powers are lining someone/s up for a takeover versus just zapping Putin and seeing what happens.
The scary thing is it appears his inner circle have all drunk the Kool-Aid (I guess they dissapear if they don't drink it), is there even a western friendly leader among the elite that would right the ship so to speak. Is there even an opposition party in Russia?
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@Victor-Meldrew are you talking about Nordstream? Highly doubt he would destroy a primary source of revenue.
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@Victor-Meldrew are you talking about Nordstream? Highly doubt he would destroy a primary source of revenue.
More that he'll never be trusted on energy supply again
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Ukraine:
@Victor-Meldrew are you talking about Nordstream? Highly doubt he would destroy a primary source of revenue.
More that he'll never be trusted on energy supply again
He doesn't want to be trusted. He doesn't want to supply the gas. He wants Europe to burn, to go down and establish a new world order.
You really think the damage to the pipeline was done by anybody other than Russia?
The narrative is pretty clear. He's putting pride in the Russian state, looking for allies for the new world order & threatening (basically the US) that any attempts to try and stop this global realignment will be dealt with harshly.
The only way back from here is an internal overthrow of his power & frankly, it isn't going to happen as he is clearly not just a one man band. WW3 won't start in my view, but the new world order has and will grow.
Thats just the sad reality in my opinion.