Bledisloe 2
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Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
Cane I think will play. I don't think it was a heavy knock and it's the same situation as with Sexton from the first to second test.
If both are deemed fit then we might see the only change being Savea into 8 and Reece (or RTS) onto the bench. Maybe Ofa for Newell.
I'd be happy with that. There was genuine periods of dominance in the first test, and if not for lapses in concentration it should have been a comfortable BP victory.
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
Assistant Referee 1: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)Raynal running the touch. Reckon he might get a few words from the aussies
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@JK said in Bledisloe 2:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
Assistant Referee 1: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)Raynal running the touch. Reckon he might get a few words from the aussies
And a nice round of applause from the EP crowd 😇
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@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch
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@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch
30? 20 is more than enough. 10 to make a point.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
hopefully every time he touches the ball
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch
30? 20 is more than enough. 10 to make a point.
Yeah but he clearly feels he needs at least 30.....
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
Listened to a bit of SENZ Simthy talking to I Cristy Doran from Fox (think Monday?).
He seems convinced WR are going to back down and apologise. Just stated it as a fact.Christy Doran- girl's name BTW - is a fucking Fox stooge who was perfectly happy to write articles devaluing the game here in the lead up to negotiations.
Either s/he knows fuck all about rugby, or is doing a great job pretending to...
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
Apparently test players grow stronger brains?In theory, Test players have access to proper specialists who can assess effects on them. Amateurs get the extra low risk version with the longer stand down.
But, yeah.
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@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
Apparently test players grow stronger brains?In theory, Test players have access to proper specialists who can assess effects on them. Amateurs get the extra low risk version with the longer stand down.
But, yeah.
They still get baselined and go to specialists for assessment. Maybe there are special specialists?
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure
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i mean, havili's has a good run of games at 12, wouldn't hurt to give him a week
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@bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure
That was guesswork from Hinton about Cane based on his history. He assumed that more care would be taken.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure
That was guesswork from Hinton about Cane based on his history. He assumed that more care would be taken.
Sure its guesswork be he also made the same point as @Stargazer about who he had seen at training. Cane was still in his track pants for the skill units at the finish of Tuesday training. Media kept out of main session.
I don't think its an unreasonable guess and why I agree with @Stargazer , I'm also picking he wont play (my guess)
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Cane might be taking it easy early in the week as a precaution with the intention of stepping it up later on.
I thought Havili was ruled out but then Ryan mentioned he was still an option. Looking at the 12 day protocol from world rugby it says: "No player will return earlier than the seventh day after injury, and any player's return will need to be approved by an independent concussion consultant."
World Rugby evolves approach to return to play from brain injury in the elite game - Keep Rugby Clean ｜ world.rugby
World Rugby is evolving its Graduated Return to Play (GRTP) protocols for the elite game following the latest review of scientific evidence and rugby-specific research by federation’s expert independent Concussion Working Group.
So, I guess Havili is technically available if he is approved by an independent consultant?
