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  • boobooB Offline
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    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

    Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

    Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

    Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

    i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

    totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

    A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it

    I can see why. He could get off.

    OJ did

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    replied to booboo on last edited by
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    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

    Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

    Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

    Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

    i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

    totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

    A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it

    I can see why. He could get off.

    OJ did

    'if the ruck don't be hit, you must acquit'?

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @Duluth said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Paekakboyz

    Reece in for Jordan IMO

    Probably, though I thought Jordan started to show some flashes of his previous form in Bled 1.

    Wouldn't be surprised to see JB at 12, WJ at 15 & Reece at 14.

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  • G Offline
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    #93

    If RTS is good enough to be picked in the squad, he needs to be starting this weekend.

    JB is our fullback and can stay there.

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    replied to Gunner on last edited by Machpants
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    @Gunner said in Bledisloe 2:

    If RTS is good enough to be picked in the squad, he needs to be starting this weekend.

    JB is our fullback and can stay there.

    He can play Japan, that's his level. He's not great as seen in NPC, needs a couple more years.

    Clarification: He's an amazing athelete, but needs more years of union to be good enough for big games. Everyone forgets SBW did 2 years of union before he played in NZ, RTS has had barely a handful of games. He's a liability IMO

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Gunner said in Bledisloe 2:

    If RTS is good enough to be picked in the squad, he needs to be starting this weekend.

    JB is our fullback and can stay there.

    He can play Japan, that's his level. He's not great as seen in NPC, needs a couple more years.

    Clarification: He's an amazing athelete, but needs more years of union to be good enough for big games. Everyone forgets SBW did 2 years of union before he played in NZ, RTS has had barely a handful of games. He's a liability IMO

    Agree he's a bit green but he seems to be a quick learner. I was amazed to find out he's played only 17 games of RU at the top level. Def. against Japan & on the EOYT.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Gunner said in Bledisloe 2:

    If RTS is good enough to be picked in the squad, he needs to be starting this weekend.

    JB is our fullback and can stay there.

    He can play Japan, that's his level. He's not great as seen in NPC, needs a couple more years.

    Clarification: He's an amazing athelete, but needs more years of union to be good enough for big games. Everyone forgets SBW did 2 years of union before he played in NZ, RTS has had barely a handful of games. He's a liability IMO

    Agree he's a bit green but he seems to be a quick learner. I was amazed to find out he's played only 17 games of RU at the top level. Def. against Japan & on the EOYT.

    I'm sure he's geting benefit from being in the ABs environment - apart from Foster 😉

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

    Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

    Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

    Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

    i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

    totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

    Has Rennie come out yet and said “he’s a good [insert religious denomination]”

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  • BonesB Online
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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

    Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

    Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

    Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

    i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

    totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

    A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it

    I can see why. He could get off.

    OJ did

    'if the ruck don't be hit, you must acquit'?

    Ladies and gentlemen, let me show you...an All Black player not supporting his own weight. It he wasn't leaning forward over balanced, he would have gone backwards and therefore not boynced the unco fuck off.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    the more i think about it the more i kind of like the idea of he cant play until QT can again

    I get that outcome shouldn't cloud judgement on action but I do think that once found guilty the consequences should be taken into account

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    nzzp
    wrote on last edited by
    #100

    what was the outcome of the hearing? I haven't seen anything on the brief google I did earlier this morning.

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    replied to nzzp on last edited by
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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

    what was the outcome of the hearing? I haven't seen anything on the brief google I did earlier this morning.

    You don’t expect rugby to be timely with it’s communication with fans, do you????

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    the more i think about it the more i kind of like the idea of he cant play until QT can again

    I get that outcome shouldn't cloud judgement on action but I do think that once found guilty the consequences should be taken into account

    agreed, and i think thats also where id differentiate between acts like this and someone that takes out someone in the air because they were watching that ball...negligent rather than deliberate

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    the more i think about it the more i kind of like the idea of he cant play until QT can again

    I get that outcome shouldn't cloud judgement on action but I do think that once found guilty the consequences should be taken into account

    agreed, and i think thats also where id differentiate between acts like this and someone that takes out someone in the air because they were watching that ball...negligent rather than deliberate

    I don't actually think that he deliberately tried to injure but was reckless. He had opportunity to not take the risk.
    Given that he had already smacked QT in the head/neck with a shoulder cleanout he went in for a second crack and did not look to be playing with a clear head.

    Recklessness does not excuse though. Like drink driving, you don't set out to have a crash but are culpable if one happens.

    What is missing (or is possibly in the 'levels' ) is the consequence of being reckless. Again, using the drink driving example, driving under the influence and causing injury to others is more serious a charge than just causing material damage.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #104

    @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

    I have always just seen a difference between

    "im going to tackle this knee"

    and

    "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #105

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #106

    @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

    Nearly a week later? Can't think that Rennie will be pleased with not knowing if a player is available.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #107

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

    Nearly a week later? Can't think that Rennie will be pleased with not knowing if a player is available.

    Just because the game was brought forward doesn't mean the regular citing cycle is brought forward - the same as if someone was cited out of Argie-Boks.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #108

    @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

    Nearly a week later? Can't think that Rennie will be pleased with not knowing if a player is available.

    Just because the game was brought forward doesn't mean the regular citing cycle is brought forward - the same as if someone was cited out of Argie-Boks.

    Still, bureaucracy not in tune with the game requirements. Maybe when RA proposed moving the game this was a known outcome and they took the risk.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by Stargazer
    #109

    @Crucial If he had been found "not guilty" on Monday (citing dismissed), he would have been available. All this points at a "guilty" verdict from the foul play committee on Monday, with Swain/Rugby Australia opting to go to a full judicial hearing on Wednesday, hoping to get another outcome.

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