Bledisloe 1
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter maybe, but that's average still from the Frenchie, he really should have rubbed out that conversion.
He can't, the NPC rules doesn't apply.
Surely that's not true. If the ref says "don't kick yet" and someone ignores him, you're saying it has to stand? Is it a matter of calling time off?
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@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter maybe, but that's average still from the Frenchie, he really should have rubbed out that conversion.
He can't, the NPC rules doesn't apply.
Surely that's not true. If the ref says "don't kick yet" and someone ignores him, you're saying it has to stand? Is it a matter of calling time off?
Yeah, exactly. He went to blow the whistle, he is literally bringing it to his mouth, and Foley kicked. Too late, there is literally nothing he can do that I can see. The ref saying 'wait a minute' is not in the rule book
Well apart from actually enforce a rule that never gets enforced in the last minute later on
Karma
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones well I think he is better than the rentaquote he has become after any controversial referee decision, and could offer more in an official capacity
Aren't these videos released by WR? I imagine if the general public can watch them, refs can too. He doesn't have to devote extra time if he doesn't want to - I reckon he's probably devoted more than enough time already.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan I see Owen's has had his usual post game review...if he wants to be involved he should really get on the referees panel or whatever to try and help the current crop of coaches instead of stirring the pot saying this and that was wrong and he'd have done this or that...
Why? Can't he just be another punter who's doing a "vlog" (probably because he's been asked to) that people can either take notice of or not? Instead he's only allowed to commit himself to more time and travel than just sitting down and recording a video on his farm.
Are all the guys on panel shows and other YouTubers also required to do this?
I guess he can do what he wants, but I think people shouldn't take what he says too seriously these days. He was obviously a good (& charismatic) ref, but his opinions in these videos are sometimes a little wonky
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@gibbon-rib said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan I see Owen's has had his usual post game review...if he wants to be involved he should really get on the referees panel or whatever to try and help the current crop of coaches instead of stirring the pot saying this and that was wrong and he'd have done this or that...
Why? Can't he just be another punter who's doing a "vlog" (probably because he's been asked to) that people can either take notice of or not? Instead he's only allowed to commit himself to more time and travel than just sitting down and recording a video on his farm.
Are all the guys on panel shows and other YouTubers also required to do this?
I guess he can do what he wants, but I think people shouldn't take what he says too seriously these days. He was obviously a good (& charismatic) ref, but his opinions in these videos are sometimes a little wonky
I think his opinion is probably at least just as valid as most other punters on shows, I can't really see how it's a bad thing - especially as I'd rather him inspiring people and refs to learn the laws than some of the other shit refs....but I don't really catch his videos much. I guess if you don't like them you could do similar. Or start up your own channel doing response videos!
I have no idea if Mark Lawrence does anything but he'd be one worth noting.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter maybe, but that's average still from the Frenchie, he really should have rubbed out that conversion.
He can't, the NPC rules doesn't apply.
No. But the WR Protocols apply, which in part state:
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter maybe, but that's average still from the Frenchie, he really should have rubbed out that conversion.
He can't, the NPC rules doesn't apply.
No. But the WR Protocols apply, which in part state:
That's the bit I didn't know. So yes he should have stopped the kick off and checked it. Ref was all over the place lol
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter maybe, but that's average still from the Frenchie, he really should have rubbed out that conversion.
He can't, the NPC rules doesn't apply.
No. But the WR Protocols apply, which in part state:
That's the bit I didn't know. So yes he should have stopped the kick off and checked it. Ref was all over the place lol
Yeah I didn't either. Nor it seems do the vast majority of commentators as they parrot the story that you can't go back after the conversion.
Which we all end up believing.
I had this nagging feeling that it was allowed, tried a google and that doc was the second hit.
Maybe journos and match callers could try something similar.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter maybe, but that's average still from the Frenchie, he really should have rubbed out that conversion.
He can't, the NPC rules doesn't apply.
No. But the WR Protocols apply, which in part state:
That's the bit I didn't know. So yes he should have stopped the kick off and checked it. Ref was all over the place lol
Yeah I didn't either. Nor it seems do the vast majority of commentators as they parrot the story that you can't go back after the conversion.
Which we all end up believing.
I had this nagging feeling that it was allowed, tried a google and that doc was the second hit.
Maybe journos and match callers could try something similar.
Research? Fuck that they'll just rely on their extensive experience and just assume nothing has changed since they played and/or started reporting on rugby. Tries need downward pressure!
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@ploughboy said in Bledisloe 1:
ref just confirmed try after conversion in SA v ARG game
LOL thanks, funny
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@Machpants seemed a big old waaaaahhhh weeeee waaasss robbed with a few lines of actual analysis.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants seemed a big old waaaaahhhh weeeee waaasss robbed with a few lines of actual analysis.
Not at all, as he pointed out it was both ways, so many 'turn overs' were illegal.
No 'we' either, he's English
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@Machpants well seemed a big old whine about the ref and BOK so assumed he was aussie
Bigger problem is reffing in general is heavily scrutinised and the rules make thier job harder.
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