Bledisloe 1
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@canefan said in Bledisloe 1:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe 1:
Of course Foley will deny timewasting. But we all know it is true. In contrast look how fast he knocked that conversion over to eliminate any possibility of review when the aussies scored off that forward pass......
He's lying.
"He never told me he turned it back on ..."
Then why did you start your run up to kick if you thought time was still off.
Poor attempt at arse covering.
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@Anonymous said in Bledisloe 1:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe 1:
I'm not entirely convinced Foley was trying to waste time after the ref blew time back on. He looked more to be waiting for his forward pack to get out of their huddle and be paying attention after the ref blew time off. Still, he should have realized the ref wasn't going to be patient after telling them to hurry up.
There definitely was time wasting but it's a bit hard to tell how egregious it was when the footage is mostly just replays and close ups of random players.
So the forwards were wasting time?
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
Oh, funniest comment, think it was TJ...Camera pans over Foster then Rennie, and TJ comments that they are both former Chiefs coaches, with 2 time winner Rennie, and then nothing, sounded like he stopped in mid-sentence!!
Maybe. But Foster has three Bledisloes.
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@booboo given the kick was going out, no matter what, the forwards paying attention was irrelevant, just a distraction to his delaying tactics.
Ironically they were likely discussing the lineout call so they walk straight in and throw rather than all the pre lineout bs we usually see...or maybe they had a call and woulda play acted another call, slowly.
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@Rapido said in Bledisloe 1:
That Australian commentary was pretty disgusting., there.
Was a joy to listen to
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@MiketheSnow said in Bledisloe 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kruse said in Bledisloe 1:
@MiketheSnow said in Bledisloe 1:
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
Valetini is a bit scary - he's basically Ardie, but proper loosie size
Obviously not as fast though
Or as tall
Did you see that hair?
Heavier, PLUS bigger hair - much slower.Aerodynamics
Hairodynamics
I'll get my coat
@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kruse said in Bledisloe 1:
@MiketheSnow said in Bledisloe 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
Valetini is a bit scary - he's basically Ardie, but proper loosie size
Obviously not as fast though
Or as tall
Did you see that hair?
Heavier, PLUS bigger hair - much slower.Aerodynamics
hairodynamics..
Don't you hate being just that split second too late?
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo this is what Foster said on it
"The other one that wasn’t clearcut was when Kellaway scored and the TMO wanted to look at what was a very suspicious forward pass, and yet the conversion was allowed to be taken," Foster noted.
"All I know was he was telling the guy not to kick the conversion, because they were checking something."
Interesting.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
I said he was lying. Looks like I'm right.
Either that, or he's deaf, or just stoopid
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo this is what Foster said on it
"The other one that wasn’t clearcut was when Kellaway scored and the TMO wanted to look at what was a very suspicious forward pass, and yet the conversion was allowed to be taken," Foster noted.
"All I know was he was telling the guy not to kick the conversion, because they were checking something."
Just replayed the passage from the broadcast. Couldn't hear the ref. May be worth spidercam as per the time wasting tiktok.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
With all of the focus on the time wasting call no one is looking at the call and actions just before.
That maul was driven sideways from yellow players joining from the sideline side. Same players then drove into the side and split the maul. Then the back section which had the ball had no numbers and went to ground for a yellow player that was on his knees to flop over the ball carrier and make a grab.
If you also add in the call against yellow that gave us the penalty before the line out you could say that Reynal really lost the plot in the final stanza.
Was that the sealing off? Thought that was fine.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
@Frank red for entering from the side would be novel but I wouldn't put it past rugby to miss a chance to card a bloke.
Quoting this for those who missed it.
Swain been cited yet?
Yes
Good.
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Rewatched the first half. Havili going off really messed up our backline. Sotutu was bloody good. Retallick shouldn't be on the field. His carrying and defence are weak. Tight five not very good. Barrett should be at lock.
The maul splintering before Valentini's try was not good.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo given the kick was going out, no matter what, the forwards paying attention was irrelevant, just a distraction to his delaying tactics.
Ironically they were likely discussing the lineout call so they walk straight in and throw rather than all the pre lineout bs we usually see...or maybe they had a call and woulda play acted another call, slowly.
Definitely the latter. And they'd have got away with it.
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Just tracking through the spider cam to look at the aftermath of Kellway's try and conversion/TMO thingame. And just watched the cross kick to Caleb Clarke.
When he is tackled some Aussie just flops into the back of the breakdown on our side.
Blatant. Will check out the broadcast bid again shortly.
Edit: ignore. CC had already knocked the ball on. Not sure if player had the right to dive on the ball in that situation though.
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@ARHS said in Bledisloe 1:
@Tim. I saw the total opposite. Sotutu push and grab tackling. Retallick full of commitment.
I think he was very good apart from a couple of mistakes. We were 20 points up for a reason. Silly to suggest we got bossed in the loose with that kind of scoreboard dominance (and certainly dominance that was evident on the field for periods as well).
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That spider cam is informative.
Whitelock approaches ref, points to big screen.
Ref asks Foley to wait. Twice. No whistle.
Foley ignores him and kicks it.
Ref wanders off and does nothing. Whistles kick over.
Random Frog.
