Bledisloe 1
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 1:
On the ref's decision at the end - would anyone have been cheesed off if he didn't take the penalty off Aussie? Was it crossing anyone's mind at the time that the ref should take action?
Watching on TV you don't, because there is talk so over it and replays of the turn over. But those at the ground have mentioned it was more obvious. And listening to the mic now, ref was pissed.
Foley ignored the ref and took a quick kick and got his team an undeserved 7 points.
Foley ignored the ref and didn't take his kick quick enough, and gifted the opposition an undeserved 5 points. And the game.Settings and roundabouts in rugby, but it was a bit of just desserts
Ref didn't really gift opposition any undeserved 5 points, they scored a try, so maybe Aussie defence had a part to play?
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 1:
On the ref's decision at the end - would anyone have been cheesed off if he didn't take the penalty off Aussie? Was it crossing anyone's mind at the time that the ref should take action?
Foley ignored the ref and took a quick kick and got his team an undeserved 7 points.
Have I missed something here? I assume you are talking about the Wallaby try from the alleged forward pass? Are you saying the ref told Foley to not take the conversion?
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For those watching on Stan in Oz, I watched the first half again last night using their Spidercam view.
It's slightly nauseating at first, then pretty amazing. You can see the setups, the lines, the spacing, as if youre behind the sticks in the top row, but instead you're still close enough to see all the detail.
And the best part, it plays in complete silence
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Chunkyaho is the heart and soul of this fucking team.
Foster dropped him during the Irish series and benched him for 2 games. Never forget it.
Part of me wonders if there were reasons beyond what they said in the presser.
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@Anonymous said in Bledisloe 1:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
@Frank red for entering from the side would be novel but I wouldn't put it past rugby to miss a chance to card a bloke.
Quoting this for those who missed it.
Swain been cited yet?
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@voodoo it was a few of the high shots that showed our defence, and is concerning with the lack of width and shape we use.
Is quite concerning that we have kept the same defence coach since 2017? and defence has been consistently poor, with no apparent improvement or innovation
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@gt12 said in Bledisloe 1:
That’s a miiiiiiiile forward
I recall the comms going on about Foley taking the kick quickly so the TMO can't intervene.
Is that an actual protocol, or just what everyone thinks it is?
Somewhere, sometime, I recall someone saying that wasn't the case.
Can anyone confirm?
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@NTA said in Bledisloe 1:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 1:
@RoninWC said in Bledisloe 1:
Definitely forward pass in that off load
Almost Cardiff 07 level
Very quick conversion taken by Foley. Did not want that replayed on the big screen
I thought the rules had changed, and they could now pull it back even with a conversion taken
Yeah. This. Anyone confirm?
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo it was a few of the high shots that showed our defence, and is concerning with the lack of width and shape we use.
Is quite concerning that we have kept the same defence coach since 2017? and defence has been consistently poor, with no apparent improvement or innovation
100%. Mcleod's system continues to be poor. He lives a charmed life.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:
Fuck Clarke no idea in defence
Sevu Reece step up.
He did. Got dropped
didn't deserve it though.
Yeah you shouldn't get dropped for playing well, but this is foster
Hmm.
"Dropped", not "replaced by a player that brings a different skill set"?
I'm a Reece fan.
And Clarke had his moments, good and awful, sometimes at the same time. But you can see why they pick him.
I just question the narrative that he was "dropped", when someone else is preferred.
But I suppose that doesn't fit the narrative.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
I'm sorry but why are they celebrating???
What would you prefer they did? Stab themselves?
After that, yes.
Accountability
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@booboo this is what Foster said on it
"The other one that wasn’t clearcut was when Kellaway scored and the TMO wanted to look at what was a very suspicious forward pass, and yet the conversion was allowed to be taken," Foster noted.
"All I know was he was telling the guy not to kick the conversion, because they were checking something."
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Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
Draw is as ggod as a loss
When I mistyped this post I was referring to the Bled.
Either result required us to win at EP (ignoring the likelihood of consecutive draws).
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With all of the focus on the time wasting call no one is looking at the call and actions just before.
That maul was driven sideways from yellow players joining from the sideline side. Same players then drove into the side and split the maul. Then the back section which had the ball had no numbers and went to ground for a yellow player that was on his knees to flop over the ball carrier and make a grab.
If you also add in the call against yellow that gave us the penalty before the line out you could say that Reynal really lost the plot in the final stanza.
