England to whitewash Australia
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<p>Wallabies need to play Brumbies-ball in close to suck in the English forwards and Nick Phipps....have a friggen go ya knob!!!!!! I think we have seen the Wallabies can't play the Poms at their own game. They have been physically dominated and outsmarted.This has been sad to see cos the strength of the Wallabies has always been outsmarting the opposition. They constantly beat the Boks cos they are smart, They beat the pre-McCaw/Carter mob cos they were smart. They have been dumb this series. One half of me is rejoicing the dumbing down of Wallaby rugby, but the love of the game half thinks it is tragic. C'mon ya obnoxious, over-confident, foul-mouthed, nasally accented gits over the ditch, regain your swagger and send these Poms packing. Use your noggins!!!!! </p>
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Not a lot of controversy in that squad. Let's hope we can finish the job properly. Some possession would be nice.</p></blockquote>
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If Eddie wanted possession I don't think your fellas would be kicking it away every time they got it. Apart from the only important one, the score, the other stat england led in was number of kicks. Very dominant in that. -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reprobate" data-cid="590877" data-time="1466689208"><p>If Eddie wanted possession I don't think your fellas would be kicking it away every time they got it. Apart from the only important one, the score, the other stat england led in was number of kicks. Very dominant in that.</p></blockquote>
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Hey us Poms have enough trouble passing the ball at the best times, let alone if it's slippery, greasy, insert excuse here<br><br>
Looks like it's going to be dry I n Sydney on match day and my prediction based on absolutely nothing at all, is that England will run it a lot more (although you could argue they could hardly run it any less than last week). My guess is that Eddie will want to show we have developed a few more strings to our bow and also catch the Aussies by surprise by not kicking the leather off everything. -
<p>If i had the best scrum, the best lineout, the best tackling, and the best goal kicker, i would be kicking every single piece of ball i got. It's not pretty, but it gets the job done. </p>
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<p>Agree, I also quite like watching the different style of game played by England too. </p>
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<p>There's more than 1 way to win a rugby game.</p>
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<p>Greasy ball in Melbourne, kicking not the worst option. What's the weather forecast for Sydney?</p>
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<p>Bit of rain around today but quite windy, so shouldn't be here for long, or be too detrimental.</p>
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<p>Tomorrow is sunny and cold as a front comes across the continent, dumping snow on the ranges.</p>
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<p>There's more than 1 way to win a rugby game.</p>
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<p>and the corollary - the body types needed to win a rugby game depend on the style you'll use to win.</p>
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<p>Agree, I also quite like watching the different style of game played by England too. </p>
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<p>There's more than 1 way to win a rugby game.</p>
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<p><strong>Seems like in recent years everyone has tried to copy the All Blacks plan and failed. </strong></p>
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<p>That's the thing, you can see another team play, but you will never be able to replicate what they do, sure you can try to play a more expansive style, but you need to be able to do so with the cattle you have.</p>
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<p>The last couple of years England looked like they were trying to play a style of game that the players simply couldn't do naturally, and if what you are trying isn't natural and instinctive, then you will fail.</p>
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<p>I see kids on Saturdays running it from everywhere, because at that age they enjoy running with the ball rather than kicking it away and playing the defensive game (although I am trying to teach TR Jnr tackling is the best part of a game!)</p> -
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<p>Does Mumm have some incriminating photos of Cheika? </p>
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<p>Well, he's not yet on the bench - one of Mumm, Palu, or Coleman will go I think, depending on Eddie's team announcement, which I assume is this afternoon.</p>
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<p>Apparently, Mumm doesn't have incriminating photos of Cheika (anymore):</p>
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<p>Coleman has been selected on the bench over Dean Mumm, who will drop out of the 23.</p>
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<div>Wallabies team to face England in third Test</div>
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<div>1. James Slipper 2. Stephen Moore (c) 3. Sekope Kepu 4. Will Skelton 5. Rob Simmons 6. Scott Fardy 7. Michael Hooperr (vc) 8. Sean McMahon</div>
<div>9. Nick Phipps 10. Bernard Foley 11. Rob Horne (vc) 12. Matt Toomua 13. Tevita Kuridrani 14. Dane Haylett-Petty 15. Israel Folau</div>
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<div>Replacements</div>
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<div>Tatafu Polota-Nau, Scott Sio, Greg Holmes, Adam Coleman (Uncapped), Wycliff Palu, Nick Frisby, Christian Leali'ifano, Taqele Naiyaravoro (1 Test)</div>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2016/06/24/01/16/coleman-to-make-test-debut'>http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2016/06/24/01/16/coleman-to-make-test-debut</a></p> -
<p>I find Palu off the bench an interesting option. It's not often you finish the game by slowing the pace and getting physical . </p>
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<p>Again, he's more of a starter, like McCalman, so why not start him?</p>
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<p>Good to see Coleman get a run. He's a big lad with a bit of aggression, and 204cm and 122kg (or so) he's got the physical attributes. Turned 24 in October and a lot of punters have him earmarked as a long term Wallaby.</p> -
<p>Because Cheika seems obsessed with proving 2 opensides works (and only Eddie couldn't make a go of it)?</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-cid="590882" data-time="1466692652" data-author="Cookie"><p>... My guess is that Eddie will want to show we have developed a few more strings to our bow and also catch the Aussies by surprise by not kicking the leather off everything.</p></blockquote><br>If so it won't catch Cheika by surprise as his latest mutterings to the press is stating that England need to be less dull and "open up a bit more". You know play a bit more like us Australians and "try and play some footy".
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="591191" data-time="1466760394"><p>If so it won't catch Cheika by surprise as his latest mutterings to the press is stating that England need to be less dull and "open up a bit more". You know play a bit more like us Australians and "try and play some footy".</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1466762639" data-cid="591203" data-author="NTA"><p>Eddie has already laughed and said "we're playing winning rugby"<br><br>And 3-0 in the first ever three game series between the nations means a place in history, of a sort.</p></blockquote>Yep. Difficult to out mind-game Eddie at any time. No chance when he's winning.
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<p>just to clarify, my earlier point re the poms kicking everything wasn't a criticism - you can certainly argue that it's not pretty rugby, and i wouldn't like to see every game like that, or for that to be the most successful way to play the game over the long term - but it was a well thought out and well executed winning tactic - and deserves a lot of kudos for that.</p>
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<p>on the other hand i don't think it is a sustainable winning tactic... if you give the opposition all the ball again, after them having a week (without the red mist) to work out how to deal with your defensive line and lack of committing to the breakdown, then i think you're asking for trouble.</p>
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<p>it's going to be interesting to see how both sides approach it.</p>
