Bledisloe 1

KiwiMurph

@booboo Some players seem to be above criticism, WJ is one of them. Hasn't been playing well.

Would think this week's game would be tailor made for him. Could see Reece getting a chance in Bledisloe 2.

Kirwan

@Kirwan not arguing reece hasn't been unlucky, was trying to work out how to get him in there, just dont like players being judged too harshly when playing out of their prefered position, hence why i would give him a run, if he doesn't look much better then the decision is that much easier

If he's just a fullback then even more reason to play Reece.

Bones

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:

he's spent a lot of time on the end of a dysfunctioning backline

Is that the same backline where Reece has looked excellent on the end of?

Kiwiwomble

@Bones yes...and i was talking about putting reece back at the end of it...have said nothing other than reece is better at 14 than jordan

Bones

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:

@Bones yes...and i was talking about putting reece back at the end of it...have said nothing other than reece is better at 14 than jordan

How much rugby did Jordan play on the wing last year? He seemed to be rather highly rated for a world player of the year nominee playing out of position.

Smith seemed to cope bloody well in a similar situation and he had nothing like the pace Jordan has (or had).

Kiwiwomble

@Bones i dont feel anything other than admitting WJ should be hung from the crossbar is going to be an acceptable answer...but i'll try

yes, reece is very unlucky and looked much better at 14, i would have him there again
WJ has not achieved the same levels at 14 as we've seen previously, either his own or other 15's we've played at 14
JW should perform or lose his spot
....i was just suggesting giving him a run in a position he might play better in before writing him off...even if to get his confidence back up

Chris

Maybe Clarke should make way for Reece.
Clarke has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate than Clarke who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..

Bones

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:

i dont feel anything other than admitting WJ should be hung from the crossbar is going to be an acceptable answer.

Yeah good one!

In response to the rest of your post - any idea how often he's played fullback at test level? I haven't, but I get the feeling he's spent the majority of his career on the wing. Surely he should be pretty damn comfortable there?

Bones

@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:

Maybe ~~Clarke~~ Jordan should make way for Reece.
~~Clarke~~ Jordan has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate than ~~Clarke~~ Jordan who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..

I know right 😉

Billy Tell

@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:

@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:

I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.

Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.

While I really hope he does step up, it seems a little rough to pass total judgement on a guy who has been completely ignored by selectors for weeks and as a result has played fuck-all rugby for an age.

Life is tough at the top. If he doesn’t play well he won’t be in the mix for the next test.

Kiwiwomble

@Bones but hes obviously not or at least not as comfortable as reece....

you seem to not want WJ on the wing...but also not want him anywhere else?

game_film

Looking forward to seeing Hoskins launch a 40m pass off his left for a try. Hope he goes well.

Bones

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:

@Bones but hes obviously not or at least not as comfortable as reece....

you seem to not want WJ on the wing...but also not want him anywhere else?

Or he's just not as good!

Nah, not really interested in him elsewhere unless required, if he can't perform on the wing. No idea what's going on with him, but he looks disinterested a lot of the time - that will be shown up tenfold at fullback.

KiwiMurph

@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:

Maybe Clarke should make way for Reece.
Clarke has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate than Clarke who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..

I think Clarke's power is a nice point of difference that we didn't have last year. With finally getting consistent footy he's showing improvement week on week.

Daffy Jaffy

Bones

Clarke and Jordan are going to absolutely smoke it this weekend.

Kiwiwomble

@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:

@Bones but hes obviously not or at least not as comfortable as reece....

you seem to not want WJ on the wing...but also not want him anywhere else?

Or he's just not as good!

Nah, not really interested in him elsewhere unless required, if he can't perform on the wing. No idea what's going on with him, but he looks disinterested a lot of the time - that will be shown up tenfold at fullback.

agreed, maybe he's not, but there has been plenty to suggest he might be a pretty good...so was just suggesting making sure before casting him aside

I disagree that wing is any easier than fullback where if your not good at one you cant be good at the other, theyre just different positions, we have already seen jordie look average at 14 but much more comfortable at 15

Chris

@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:

@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:

Maybe ~~Clarke~~ Jordan should make way for Reece.
~~Clarke~~ Jordan has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate than ~~Clarke~~ Jordan who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..

I know right 😉

Shaky hand there ? you put the line through through the wrong player.

Chris

@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:

Clarke and Jordan are going to absolutely smoke it this weekend.

You know it

Daffy Jaffy

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Bledisloe 1