Bledisloe 1
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It's interesting to me to see so many people advocating for changes to the line-up for the fun of it.
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@mariner4life Thomson was the go to backup in all 3 positions 2011 IIRC
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@taniwharugby i agree...but i think thats where we are regardless of how fair it is
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan i don't think you can play Savea and Akira in the same starting pack even behind teh england 2003 tight 5.
I don't give a shit about the chat on here. the only thing SF did was smack rucks and run straight, oh and tackle with a shoulder. Far from perfect but it made the team better. Akira might want to think about that.
See this is the silliness I'm talking about. Akira has done everything that Frizzell has done recently (with the exception of throwing away tries), including tackling hard and running hard (once through four Irish defenders for a try).
Savea and Akira have combined well on many occasions, this is a classic Fern myth brewing. One of the dumber ones too.
Hi. Big Akira fanboi here.
But I kinda agree with @mariner4life .
I'd love to see him running from depth in close. But thinking SB, Friz and Vai'i (the latter based on hope and speculation admittedly) can do that better in the early stages of a test.
And think we're better suited to having him come on later in the game to test the gaps out wide.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.
Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.
i know right, i think thats whats gets me, the people that get dropped after playing well and those that keep playing after playing poorly...hence my suspicion fozzie does his selections based on Rugby Challenge 19 player ratings
Yes and no.
Fan of Reece. But who to leave out? Your choices are JB or CC.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan i don't think you can play Savea and Akira in the same starting pack even behind teh england 2003 tight 5.
I don't give a shit about the chat on here. the only thing SF did was smack rucks and run straight, oh and tackle with a shoulder. Far from perfect but it made the team better. Akira might want to think about that.
See this is the silliness I'm talking about. Akira has done everything that Frizzell has done recently (with the exception of throwing away tries), including tackling hard and running hard (once through four Irish defenders for a try).
Savea and Akira have combined well on many occasions, this is a classic Fern myth brewing. One of the dumber ones too.
Hi. Big Akira fanboi here.
But I kinda agree with @mariner4life .
I'd love to see him running from depth in close. But thinking SB, Friz and Vai'i (the latter based on hope and speculation admittedly) can do that better in the early stages of a test.
And think we're better suited to having him come on later in the game to test the gaps out wide.
I'd rather the best lock play lock, and the best six play six.
Leave the wide stuff to Savea, and in this game Sotutu, and use Akira's strength in close to get us over the advantage line. Frizzel is Owen Franks-like in reaching the line and hitting the ground. The guy got smashed backwards by an inside back!
He's also one of the better maul forwards in the country, still a big weakness for the ABs.
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
Hmmm. I see the akira is awesome posts again. Bloody well show us please akira with a dominant display off the bench rather than an ok-ish one.
TBF there’s only one poster dying on that hill.
He’s a good player no doubt but the fact is that it’s not just Foster but Ryan as well that can see that he doesn’t match the desire for a straight running charger. They want someone that tackles with their shoulder more than their arms and drives with their legs in contact rather than trying to step.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.
Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.
i know right, i think thats whats gets me, the people that get dropped after playing well and those that keep playing after playing poorly...hence my suspicion fozzie does his selections based on Rugby Challenge 19 player ratings
Yes and no.
Fan of Reece. But who to leave out? Your choices are JB or CC.
On form, Will Jordan gets a rest.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.
Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.
i know right, i think thats whats gets me, the people that get dropped after playing well and those that keep playing after playing poorly...hence my suspicion fozzie does his selections based on Rugby Challenge 19 player ratings
Yes and no.
Fan of Reece. But who to leave out? Your choices are JB or CC.
i'd probably give Jordie a chop out, dont think he has anything to prove, we know he can do the job
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.
Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.
i know right, i think thats whats gets me, the people that get dropped after playing well and those that keep playing after playing poorly...hence my suspicion fozzie does his selections based on Rugby Challenge 19 player ratings
Yes and no.
Fan of Reece. But who to leave out? Your choices are JB or CC.
On form, Will Jordan gets a rest.
personally id like to give him a run at 15 before giving him a rest due to form
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.
Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.
i know right, i think thats whats gets me, the people that get dropped after playing well and those that keep playing after playing poorly...hence my suspicion fozzie does his selections based on Rugby Challenge 19 player ratings
Yes and no.
Fan of Reece. But who to leave out? Your choices are JB or CC.
On form, Will Jordan gets a rest.
Heresy
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
Hmmm. I see the akira is awesome posts again. Bloody well show us please akira with a dominant display off the bench rather than an ok-ish one.
TBF there’s only one poster dying on that hill.
He’s a good player no doubt but the fact is that it’s not just Foster but Ryan as well that can see that he doesn’t match the desire for a straight running charger. They want someone that tackles with their shoulder more than their arms and drives with their legs in contact rather than trying to step.
No, just one that can be bothered arguing with the usual suspects about it.
Everything you wrote up there describes Akira's game. FFS.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
Hmmm. I see the akira is awesome posts again. Bloody well show us please akira with a dominant display off the bench rather than an ok-ish one.
TBF there’s only one poster dying on that hill.
He’s a good player no doubt but the fact is that it’s not just Foster but Ryan as well that can see that he doesn’t match the desire for a straight running charger. They want someone that tackles with their shoulder more than their arms and drives with their legs in contact rather than trying to step.
No, just one that can be bothered arguing with the usual suspects about it.
Everything you wrote up there describes Akira's game. FFS.
We must have our players mixed up then 😀
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
Hmmm. I see the akira is awesome posts again. Bloody well show us please akira with a dominant display off the bench rather than an ok-ish one.
TBF there’s only one poster dying on that hill.
He’s a good player no doubt but the fact is that it’s not just Foster but Ryan as well that can see that he doesn’t match the desire for a straight running charger. They want someone that tackles with their shoulder more than their arms and drives with their legs in contact rather than trying to step.
No, just one that can be bothered arguing with the usual suspects about it.
Everything you wrote up there describes Akira's game. FFS.
We must have our players mixed up then 😀
No, just that you are pretty wrong (as usual) about how he plays.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo Some players seem to be above criticism, WJ is one of them. Hasn't been playing well.
you can admit he hasn't been playing well whilst also acknowledging he's spent a lot of time on the end of a dysfunctioning backline (at times) and is potentially a much better 15 than 14, and its hard to say if he's better at 15 than JB if he never gets a run
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo Some players seem to be above criticism, WJ is one of them. Hasn't been playing well.
you can admit he hasn't been playing well whilst also acknowledging he's spent a lot of time on the end of a dysfunctioning backline (at times) and is potentially a much better 15 than 14, and its hard to say if he's better at 15 than JB if he never gets a run
His kicking when covering back has been poor, so quite far from getting ahead of JB on that aspect alone.
Reece has made a lot of attacking impact this year, and drastically improved his defence. Has been unlucky.
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@Kirwan not arguing reece hasn't been unlucky, was trying to work out how to get him in there, just dont like players being judged too harshly when playing out of their prefered position, hence why i would give him a run, if he doesn't look much better then the decision is that much easier
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan not arguing reece hasn't been unlucky, was trying to work out how to get him in there, just dont like players being judged too harshly when playing out of their prefered position, hence why i would give him a run, if he doesn't look much better then the decision is that much easier
If he's just a fullback then even more reason to play Reece.
