Foster, Robertson etc
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@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.
At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.
Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.
I'm surprised, everyone I've talked to around the time had realised Hansen had lost his edge, and obviously should have gone as originally planned after the lions series. His judgement was suspect by then, the 'after more than 7 years in the job you're past your peak and is time to move on' effect was very obvious
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Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.
Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.
The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?
As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.
Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?
One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
Lots at stake this week it seems -
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.
Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.
The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?
As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.
Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?
One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
Lots at stake this week it seemsbeen reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.
Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.
The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?
As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.
Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?
One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
Lots at stake this week it seemsbeen reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out
More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.
Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.
The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?
As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.
Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?
One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
Lots at stake this week it seemsbeen reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out
More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.
we will find out what is click bait and not in next week
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
@ploughboy said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.
Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.
The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?
As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.
Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?
One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
Lots at stake this week it seemsbeen reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out
More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.
we will find out what is click bait and not in next week
We have already found out some of it.
Cane being dropped as Captain etc.
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
@ploughboy said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.
Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.
The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?
As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.
Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?
One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
Lots at stake this week it seemsbeen reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out
More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.
we will find out what is click bait and not in next week
We have already found out some of it.
Cane being dropped as Captain etc.
then again that might be found out next week to
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.
Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.
The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?
As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.
Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?
One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
Lots at stake this week it seemsbeen reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out
Sauce??
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But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.
Just rip that plaster off.
Excellent word choices in bold.
This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.
Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.
The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?
As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.
Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?
One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
Lots at stake this week it seemsbeen reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out
Sauce??
robert van royen article on some rugby site
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But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.
Just rip that plaster off.
Excellent word choices in bold.
This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.
We’ve all fallen for that one
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@ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach
i think that is chris and mines points lots of click bait out there some of it will be right some will be fools gold
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@ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.
I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.
I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...
Wouldn't that be ironic.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.
I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...
It's lining up nicely for TSF Coaching Inc to take over.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.
I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...
Wouldn't that be ironic.
Don't you think, maybe a little too ironic
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.
I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...
Wouldn't that be ironic.
Don't you think, maybe a little too ironic
It would be
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One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.
Exactly this.
And similarly, one Test win doesn't prove the improvement in the forwards engineered by the new coach isn't a one-off either. We've seen improvements in the whole team but we want see it sustained.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.
Exactly this.
And similarly, one Test win doesn't prove the improvement in the forwards engineered by the new coach isn't a one-off either. We've seen improvements in the whole team but we want see it sustained.
Of course we want to see more improvements.
I think we will in the Forwards elsewhere I am not so confident.
