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    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

    Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

    He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
    Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

    and Frizzell does?

    I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

    But i am convinced by the absolute mountain of evidence that Frizzell isn't

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by Nepia
    #377

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

    Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

    He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
    Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

    Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

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    @cgrant said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    In order to strengthen the forwards cohesion, why not try established combinations ? This means the Chiefs front row (Ross - Taukeiaho - Ta'avao with the Crusaders front row on the bench Bower - Taylor - Newell) + the Crusaders locks (Barrett - Whitelock with Va'ai on the bench) + the Blues loose forwards (Ioane - Papalii - Sotutu with Savea on the bench) ? It has zero chance to happen though.

    i get the idea but

    The problems are not that they aren't used to playing together, it's that they aren't used to playing this way together. We're gonna have the same problems with different faces. You aren't picking the Blues loosies to play like the Blues loosies, you are picking 3 guys who play at the Blues to be the AB loosies.

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

    Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

    Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

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    replied to Bones on last edited by
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    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

    Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

    Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

    6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

    Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    close losses

    Imagine how good the performance would have to be to achieve that.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

    Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

    Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

    6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

    Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

    Scott Barrett is lauded for less. 😉

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

    Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

    He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
    Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

    Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

    The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
    The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

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  • TimT Away
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    The All Blacks lost their edge years ago

    The All Blacks lost their edge years ago

    Now, the All Blacks’ greatest foe, the Springboks, have added to the misery by pushing that ranking down another rung to fifth.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

    Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

    He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
    Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

    Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

    The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
    The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

    He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by
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    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

    Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

    He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
    Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

    Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

    The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
    The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

    He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

    The Naki Hillbilly look?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim funny how most here have seen the issues showing since 2017, but was really 2019 when things really came to the fore, covid kinda hid it, but also accelerated it, so now here we are, staring at 4 in a row, 6 from our last 7 even!

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #388

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

    Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

    He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
    Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

    Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

    The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
    The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

    He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

    The Naki Hillbilly look?

    White Chicks (2004) ⭐ 5.9 | Comedy, Crime

    White Chicks (2004) ⭐ 5.9 | Comedy, Crime

    1h 49m | PG-13

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    wrote on last edited by
    #389

    Watching Townsville, and then Squidge analysis of Wobblies win over Boks, it is apparent that Rennie tactic of 10 standing 3-5m deeper worked better than Foster flat positioning.
    Couple of reasons:

    1. Flat and Bok outside in rush leaves no margin for error in passing. In both Townsville and last Saturday ABs made numerous errors under pressure. And flat means easier for Boks loosies to swoop.
    2. Bok system means 14 and 13 come in on slight fish hook/inverted dog leg shape. Having to cover the extra metres accentuates that and creates a gap, which Rennie had designed plays to exploit.
      We’ll have to wait and see whether or not Foster has seen fit to introduce variation…
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    @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

    7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

    7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

    According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

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  • R Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #392

    I see the Boss there too. Mark Robinson waddling around. Keeping a closer eye on Fozzie.

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  • BonesB Online
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    Bones
    wrote on last edited by
    #393

    The quick solution to improve the All Blacks backline chemistry

    The quick solution to improve the All Blacks backline chemistry

    If the All Blacks select a backline with some pre-made cohesion from either the Crusaders or Blues, they might improve their attack.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by
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    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

    7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

    According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

    Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by
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    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

    7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

    According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

    Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

    I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

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