Springboks v All Blacks I
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@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@chimoaus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nzzp said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Rucks need to be hit, proper kicking and passing still needs to be made, scrums need to be won - yes in the last 20 too.
Our ruck work is inaccurate, and our decision making is poor. Early in the second half, our cleaners were away from the ball - so Kitshoff just wandered in and contested it, and won a turnover. It's jut basic rugby; the Bokke were protecting their ball brilliantly
That said, I thought the ref was a bit random and all over the place. All Blacks got frustrated with some of the rulings - but struggled to adapt.
Maybe they'd given up by then as they knew that Gus would award a penalty to Marx even if he was lying on his back 50 metres away from the ruck.
Its all about pictures for the ref isn't it, it all happens so quick, and Marx presents a pretty easy picture for the ref. A good captain would have a word with the Ref and say they are not giving us a clear release making it hard. Or the 6 was laying all over the ball. I think a good captain needs to read the game and get in the ear of the ref early.
Boks so 7 laying all over ball.
What happened to blowing the defenders off our ball instead of waiting for the ref to do it for us?
Here’s what to do:
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman maybe next time the Bok could use his arms?
Are you trying to trigger me?
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman maybe next time the Bok could use his arms?
Are you trying to trigger me?
Um. No.
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman maybe next time the Bok could use his arms?
Are you trying to trigger me?
Um. No.
Bones has already majored on Marx's yogi-like anti-gravitational abilities!
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman maybe next time the Bok could use his arms?
Are you trying to trigger me?
Um. No.
Bones has already majored on Marx's yogi-like anti-gravitational abilities!
it is really clever though how Marx balances himself against their legs while looking like he isn't leaning on them..
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@nostrildamus clearly he does it well enough to fool the ref, who is the only one he needs to fool.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus clearly he does it well enough to fool the ref, who is the only one he needs to fool.
Or maybe we have cleaners to take him out.
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@Joans-Town-Jones there's that too, but he is only playing as the ref allows him, something we used to be better at.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Joans-Town-Jones there's that too, but he is only playing as the ref allows him, something we used to be better at.
100%. I remember commenting at the time, "is he supporting his body weight?" but really, he was mostly uncontested. We deserved to lost those rucks on principle.
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@chimoaus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nzzp said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Rucks need to be hit, proper kicking and passing still needs to be made, scrums need to be won - yes in the last 20 too.
Our ruck work is inaccurate, and our decision making is poor. Early in the second half, our cleaners were away from the ball - so Kitshoff just wandered in and contested it, and won a turnover. It's jut basic rugby; the Bokke were protecting their ball brilliantly
That said, I thought the ref was a bit random and all over the place. All Blacks got frustrated with some of the rulings - but struggled to adapt.
Maybe they'd given up by then as they knew that Gus would award a penalty to Marx even if he was lying on his back 50 metres away from the ruck.
Its all about pictures for the ref isn't it, it all happens so quick, and Marx presents a pretty easy picture for the ref. A good captain would have a word with the Ref and say they are not giving us a clear release making it hard. Or the 6 was laying all over the ball. I think a good captain needs to read the game and get in the ear of the ref early.
Boks so 7 laying all over ball.
What happened to blowing the defenders off our ball instead of waiting for the ref to do it for us?
Here’s what to do:
god i love those, you get the point of your shoulder right where their shoulder joins their neck, hit and drive. If you get it right it almost feels effortless, and the dude is flat on the ground. Feels fucking great.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack probably highlights another issue, particularly relevant when binding, is jersies are more fitting these days and the material less easy to grip onto.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Tim At least he is showing a bit of aggression. Young fella has the right attitude!
Yeah, but what it again with Benny Hill music running in your head.
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OK, finished watching it now.
Christ, we were lethargic. Seemed like the Super Final all over again - one side knew their game and tactics and executed, the other defended stoutly, but you can't gift that much possession to the opposition and hope to be in the contest.
Angus was just in a free for all at rucks - supporting bodyweight didn't seem to matter ... so why the hell weren't we doing it?
This will come as an absolute shock, but if our mindset and accuracy improve a bit, we'll be very very competitive next weekend. Scrum still an issue, but that was a game that so much went wrong, compounded by not playing the ref well and it all just slipped away. I'm hopeful rather than confident, mind you, but a back to basics approach ( @mariner4life ) seems a bloody good idea.
There is something deeply wrong behind the scenes for us to be playing this badly. It's got ot change, and soon.
otherwise, it was one of the more painful ways of spending 80 minutes I can remember.