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  • TimT Away
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    #378

    It's bad enough that this NZRU PR is passed off as "analysis" in our horrible media environment, but does the Herald really need to promote it too? At the very least it should be marked as "sponsored content".

    Sir John Kirwan: How Ian Foster can keep All Blacks job

    All Black great Sir John Kirwan says now is not the time to change the All Blacks coach as pressure mounts on Ian Foster following the 2-1 series defeat to Ireland.

    In an interview with Newstalk ZB's Tim Dower, Kirwan was asked if now was the time to change the coaching staff.

    "Not at all. I think there's going to be some real decisions to make. They've got the Rugby Championship coming up, flying to South Africa next week. It's never been done in the history of the game [firing an All Blacks coach]. I believe Ian Foster can turn this around. Well he has to turn it around - should I say.

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    @MrDenmore said in Foster must go:

    An enterprising journo needs to get the good oil on what the players are thinking. Plainly, they are an unhappy crew. Foster pulling Cane 15 minutes before the final whistle in Wellington suggested he was trying to make his own captain the patsy for the tripe that was served up. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark Aotearoa.

    Are we reading a bit too much into this? IIRC Kolisi gets pulled in matches for the Boks so it could be Foster just thought he'd expended too much energy?

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    @Tim SJK has got so much wrong this year, just keep on keeping on.

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby He's basically an employee of the NZRU, so anything he says should be disregarded as PR.

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    @Tim well, JK is a fucking expert on substandard coaching. Him thinking Ian needs more time to turn it around sounds like wish fulfillment

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    @Chris-B If a coaching change is to be made, it would need to be before the EOYT. That gives the new coach enough time to get their support staff in place, and a tour is the perfect environment for them to implement changes.

    As to NZR making a decision now, I'd say that is the reality of professional sport, and demonstrates leadership. We can't just rely on the end of a RWC cycle, or a coach to step away (e.g., Smith), for this to happen.

    If Foster is to remain (for now), a win in one of the two tests in SA has to be a non-negotiable KPI.

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    Any one got any comparative offload stats for the series? Seems that Ireland completely shut down our offload game.

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    If NZR want to be a high performing organisation, it needs to be ruthless in implementing fixes where it's clear something isn't working. That "fix" doesn't have to be complete in its initial phase which goes to clearly rejecting unsatisfactory performance and sending a signal. Coaching positions can become vacant while you look for other candidates.

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    #386

    I don't care if we lose against SA.

    We need serious pruning and we need it now.
    The time for risk is now. No more delay.
    We need the young ones to start. Bower, ST, Vaai, Paps and QT
    Chuck in another young prop. Our props have been dreadful.
    Test out JB at 12, Jordan at 15 if thats what they want to try.
    Try BB as impact sub.
    Cant believe Sotutu and Grace haven't had a decent outing.
    Shift Ardie from 8.
    Need break dancing 100%, no other option.
    About 4 fantastic older ABs need to retire.
    Keep Whitelock, has GOAT like qualities. Make him captain, he'll last until 2023
    Lets do it

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    Kirwan also tipped the ABs 13+ on the weekend

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    Although Bower has been excellent, I think the way that he is going well - essentially based on repeated efforts - shows that we should be using the younger players. For all we know, another one of the younger props with a big motor could be even better. When he is getting compared to old slow set-piecers like Laulala and Karl, it's not a surprise that he is a bright spot.

    I'm not trying to run him down, just arguing that if they made better selections, we'd know if he was the best next LH around or is just better than the old slow ones we currently have.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

    Kirwan also tipped the ABs 13+ on the weekend

    So did 18 Ferners! 🤣

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    @gt12 if Moody was fit he wouldn't even be playing

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    @Machpants said in Foster must go:

    @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

    Kirwan also tipped the ABs 13+ on the weekend

    So did 18 Ferners! 🤣

    To be fair, betting on a Foster team is an utter lottery.

    I gave up on it a decade ago with the Chiefs. There is just no way you can tell what is coming.

    I though the ABs might win by 13+, but then I thought they might lose by 13+ too.

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    @Tim said in Foster must go:

    It's bad enough that this NZRU PR is passed off as "analysis" in our horrible media environment, but does the Herald really need to promote it too? At the very least it should be marked as "sponsored content".

    Sir John Kirwan: How Ian Foster can keep All Blacks job

    All Black great Sir John Kirwan says now is not the time to change the All Blacks coach as pressure mounts on Ian Foster following the 2-1 series defeat to Ireland.

    In an interview with Newstalk ZB's Tim Dower, Kirwan was asked if now was the time to change the coaching staff.

    "Not at all. I think there's going to be some real decisions to make. They've got the Rugby Championship coming up, flying to South Africa next week. It's never been done in the history of the game [firing an All Blacks coach]. I believe Ian Foster can turn this around. Well he has to turn it around - should I say.

    Title of piece:
    Shit coach endorses shit coach

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  • TimT Away
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life Didn't they sign Moody to a long contract extension as well? It's like they stopped watching rugby after the Lions tour 2015.

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    @mariner4life said in Foster must go:

    @gt12 if Moody was fit he wouldn't even be playing

    Jesus fucking Christ.

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    @gt12 said in Foster must go:

    @mariner4life said in Foster must go:

    @gt12 if Moody was fit he wouldn't even be playing

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    the plan seems to be to play the exact same forward pack in two consecutive world cups

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Foster must go:

    @gt12 said in Foster must go:

    @mariner4life said in Foster must go:

    @gt12 if Moody was fit he wouldn't even be playing

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    the plan seems to be to play the exact same forward pack in two consecutive world cups

    Some bright individual will come up with a definition of madness to suit.

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  • TimT Away
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by Tim
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    @mariner4life said in Foster must go:

    @gt12 said in Foster must go:

    @mariner4life said in Foster must go:

    @gt12 if Moody was fit he wouldn't even be playing

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    the plan seems to be to play the exact same forward pack in two consecutive world cups

    I have heard a comment that the current coaches think that props generally need to be at least 28 years old to be developed enough for test rugby ...

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