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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.

    He started Bledisloe test 2 2020 thrown into the deep end at Eden Park (test 1 was drawn) due to injuries and had a fine game.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.

    Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.

    I don't believe you! 🙂

    I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.

    A Crusaders game in 2017 and one last year:

    VCS Websites (NZ) - Lower Hutt and Wellington www.vcsnet.co.nz

    Scott Kevin Barrett | New Zealand Rugby History

    Scott Kevin Barrett | New Zealand Rugby History
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    @Duluth And one game, this year, too.

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    @Stargazer remember who against?

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    @Bones I just looked it up. Against the Drua.

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    @Bones Yes - he does play there for the Crusaders on occasion. Thaqt';s where Hansen got his RWC idea from.

    Started there at least once this season.

    @KiwiMurph - That's true - but, I can remember watching a game last year - which I'm pretty sure was against Italy, when we were short of locks and I thought that if we needed to use Vaaí in the forthcoming big tests we will be in trouble. So, he's got re-proving to do for me.

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.

    Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.

    I don't believe you! 🙂

    I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.

    A Crusaders game in 2017 and one last year:

    VCS Websites (NZ) - Lower Hutt and Wellington www.vcsnet.co.nz

    Scott Kevin Barrett | New Zealand Rugby History

    Scott Kevin Barrett | New Zealand Rugby History

    Seems he plays one game at 6 (or a very brief stint) and then it gets shelved for a couple of years....I wonder why that is...?

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    @Bones Those stats only say something about where a player starts. It doesn't give info about a player changing position during a game as a result of substitutions.

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    @Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Those stats only say something about where a player starts. It doesn't give info about a player changing position during a game as a result of substitutions.

    We're talking about starting aren't we?

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.

    That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp 😁

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.

    That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp 😁

    You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
    With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen.😂

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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.

    That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp 😁

    You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
    With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen.😂

    You gotta hope so!

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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.

    That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp 😁

    You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
    With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen.😂

    You're welcome!

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    @Chris and Ofa will dominate his opposite!

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Read my post above on Vaa'i.

    Scott Barrett is a rookie at 6 full stop. Vaai has been an AB for two years now isn't it? And has shown he's more than capable at test level, as Well as showing he's a better 6 than Barrett (at least at SR). We have different definitions of rookie...

    Nah, we need to find out if SB can hack it at 6 at Test level. Might as well do it now rather than later........

    (Calls RTS and asks if he wants to share the taxi...)

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris and Ofa will dominate his opposite!

    Now you have gone too far.

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    @Victor-Meldrew and to be fair, IMO SB was not the problem in 2019, our game plan was askew and we had a lock we relied on, just back from injury and horribly out of form.

    I'd rather he not be trialled at 6 in test matches though, especially as our game plan hasnt really evolved since 2019....

    @Chris Never!

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Those stats only say something about where a player starts. It doesn't give info about a player changing position during a game as a result of substitutions.

    We're talking about starting aren't we?

    To me starting at 6 is what's weird about his selection. It means either Retallick & Whitelock play the full game or one is replaced by a SB who's played 6 since kick-off.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Victor-Meldrew and to be fair, IMO SB was not the problem in 2019, our game plan was askew and we had a lock we relied on, just back from injury and horribly out of form.

    I'd rather he not be trialled at 6 in test matches though, especially as our game plan hasnt really evolved since 2019....

    @Chris Never!

    absolutely he wasnt the worst on the paddock in the semi against England when most of our forwards shit the bed in my view, but he wasn't playing like a six either. I just hope it doesnt mean the team plays like that again if he gets selected there

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