Waratahs vs Hurricanes
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@Canes4life Can’t imagine the Canes management being smart enough to keep them both.
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Having re watched both recent games, I am pleased how well Franks has gone in general play, esp on defence. He used to just run around with his arms up, but make fuck all takcles, then turn up and lean on rucks. But he's really upped his defensive work. He's a smokey for the RWC IMO, if our scrum struggles. Maybe not so much on attack, but if he becsome a key defender there is worth
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@Bones said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
@Machpants yeah noticeable he seems a lot more aggressive around the field - hitting contact hard ball in hand even if he is still dropping straight away! Probably leans towards a quicker recycle at least.
Very true he flops forward rather than straight down!
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Kirifi in the news again, he really is a hot head and needs to control himself. I like his passion out on the field but he needs to channel it effectively instead of getting distracted from his role. Another learning for him I guess.
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@Canes4life it was "bloody cheating kiwis" eh?
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@Canes4life Good on him I say. No need to apologise.
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@Machpants he’s been doing it all year, just hope it doesn’t catch up with him. Wouldn’t be a bad idea resting him again this weekend.
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@mikey07 said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
More on that Du Plessis incident.
Fucking disgusting. I've got players from all over the Pacific and they get it regularly on the field from some quarters.
The problem is, you can't do much about it unless you've got evidence, and even a stat dec sometimes won't stack up.
I'm a Board member with Suburban rugby and am waiting for the day when - while playing or running the flag - I get the opportunity to absolutely fry some shit-for-brains who drops the wrong kind of language in earshot.
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@Machpants said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
Having re watched both recent games, I am pleased how well Franks has gone in general play, esp on defence. He used to just run around with his arms up, but make fuck all takcles, then turn up and lean on rucks. But he's really upped his defensive work. He's a smokey for the RWC IMO, if our scrum struggles. Maybe not so much on attack, but if he becsome a key defender there is worth
Owen Franks was always very good at shifting bodies at ruck time. With the ball he where movements went to die, but cannot fault his cleanout work at all.
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@mariner4life said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
Having re watched both recent games, I am pleased how well Franks has gone in general play, esp on defence. He used to just run around with his arms up, but make fuck all takcles, then turn up and lean on rucks. But he's really upped his defensive work. He's a smokey for the RWC IMO, if our scrum struggles. Maybe not so much on attack, but if he becsome a key defender there is worth
Owen Franks was always very good at shifting bodies at ruck time. With the ball he where movements went to die, but cannot fault his cleanout work at all.
On the outer a little when the hierarchy got all hard for ball skills.
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@NTA said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
Having re watched both recent games, I am pleased how well Franks has gone in general play, esp on defence. He used to just run around with his arms up, but make fuck all takcles, then turn up and lean on rucks. But he's really upped his defensive work. He's a smokey for the RWC IMO, if our scrum struggles. Maybe not so much on attack, but if he becsome a key defender there is worth
Owen Franks was always very good at shifting bodies at ruck time. With the ball he where movements went to die, but cannot fault his cleanout work at all.
On the outer a little when the hierarchy got all hard for ball skills.
he had also slowed down a lot. definitely come to the end of his line as a test player.
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@mariner4life Still pretty handy to have as a back-up option, if there are mulitple injuries.
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@Stargazer said in Waratahs vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life Still pretty handy to have as a back-up option, if there are mulitple injuries.
The kind of guy who goes back to second grade at your club, then does a 10-15 minute shift off the bench for firsts. You'll never lose a scrum with them on the field.
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I saw this posted on another forum.
I am not necessarily endorsing the analysis, but this was my take on the scrums in the game as well.
The TL/DR is "cheating Tahs got away with murder at scrum time because the ref was clueless".
https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/uq3c6r/the_waratahshurricanes_scrum_palava_explained/
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