Highlanders v Force
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
Name one example of a woman voting before women began voting.
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
Name one example of a woman voting before women began voting.
I don't think whether an accidental head clash should be a red card is as clear cut as whether men and women should have the same human rights.
My point is that you can't expect everyone to automatically adopt the same position at the same time. It's like how it was acceptable to be against gay marriage in 2005 but homophobic in 2010....it doesn't make sense. If someone was still against women voting now, that would be strange and we would just that person harshly. However, that was a reasonable position in the 1890s.
Besides, I was being kind saying 2018. I really could have used 2021 instead. Head clashes have only been a red card very recently. Just because you, and the sports administrators have reached that point this year, doesn't mean everyone who hasn't doesn't care about player safety or isn't knowledgeable.
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@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
I agree there is a lot of cards... Players need to take some responsibility...
Because I can't see how knocking a player out cold due to your carelessness is good for the game?
Well, these are the best players in the world. They are professionals with the best conditioning and coaches, and they have taken rugby to its highest ever level. Despite all that, they cannot comply with the demands of the officials and administrators.
I take a very different lesson from that than you.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
If someone was still against women voting now, that would be strange and we would just that person harshly. However, that was a reasonable position in the 1890s.
Bingo.
Well, maybe one day people will say the fact that we allow people to play rugby is equivalent to not allowing women to vote. We don't know how people will view an accidental head clash being a red card in the future.
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@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
I agree there is a lot of cards... Players need to take some responsibility...
Because I can't see how knocking a player out cold due to your carelessness is good for the game?
Well, these are the best players in the world. They are professionals with the best conditioning and coaches, and they have taken rugby to its highest ever level. Despite all that, they cannot comply with the demands of the officials and administrators.
I take a very different lesson from that than you.
There's no where near as many cards in NH, and their refs are maybe harsher. So I'd disagree with that premise
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@Bones you know I’m right because you’ve moaned about it in other threads.
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones you know I’m right because you’ve moaned about it in other threads.
I've never moaned about a clear red card being a red card, don't make shit up.
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@Bones it wasn’t a clear red card though. Yellow at best. Rugby has gone soft and all of that..
Marshall knows best.
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@Machpants I would love to see a comparison between Super Rugby and NH Championship in Ave number cards per game after each rule change. Our players aren't that different and every player knows the rules and correct tackle technique yet it seems to happen multiple times per game.
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones it wasn’t a clear red card though. Yellow at best. Rugby has gone soft and all of that..
Marshall knows best.
Going in at head height to make a tackle and striking the other player's head isn't a clear red. Righto champ
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@Bones it’s a blatant accidental head clash, if you watch it at real speed instead of an unrealistic slow motion replay, Kahui has no time to react so it’s definitely unintentional.
If that’s going to be the ruling moving forward then so be it but the refs need to be consistent, which they haven’t been because we’ve seen similar scenarios being given yellow previously.
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones it’s a blatant accidental head clash, if you watch it at real speed instead of an unrealistic slow motion replay, Kahui has no time to react so it’s definitely unintentional.
If that’s going to be the ruling moving forward then so be it but the refs need to be consistent, which they haven’t been because we’ve seen similar scenarios being given yellow previously.
What the fuck? No time to react...why? What did he think he was going to do, approach the guy catching the ball and have a cuppa? I have a feeling he was chasing that to attempt a tackle, wotcha reckon? The head clash may have been unintentional, but the tackle wasn't...a tackle made in a reckless and dangerous manner, it's really fucking simple.
