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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

    Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

    He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

    Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

    Cantab

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  • MN5M Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

    Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

    He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

    Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

    Cantab

    You move here, you’re from here. Stop ruining my reminiscing with facts.

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  • kiwi_expatK Offline
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    The one-two punch that could ignite the All Blacks attack

    The one-two punch that could ignite the All Blacks attack

    Two emerging halfbacks could prove crucial to the future success of the All Blacks.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #1255

    Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

    Smith, Christie & someone new

    Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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  • C Offline
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    On pure current form, the AB team could be :

    De Groot
    ST
    Ofa T
    Sangster
    Lord
    Ioane
    Papali'i
    Sotutu
    Ratima
    Perofeta
    Clarke
    TUJ
    Ioane
    Jordan
    Barrett

    Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

    Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
    #1257

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

    Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

    Smith, Christie & someone new

    And there are plenty of tests left to develop that 3rd halfback before the RWC, and beyond 2023.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    @cgrant pretty hard to justify Barrett at fullback on form but otherwise good...

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    So who’s captain if not Cane?

    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

    Dalton.

    Go all in.

    I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

    Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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  • FrankF Offline
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    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

    On pure current form, the AB team could be :

    De Groot
    ST
    Ofa T
    Sangster
    Lord
    Ioane
    Papali'i
    Sotutu
    Ratima
    Perofeta
    Clarke
    TUJ
    Ioane
    Jordan
    Barrett

    This guy good enough to be an AB?

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
    replied to booboo on last edited by
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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    So who’s captain if not Cane?

    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

    Dalton.

    Go all in.

    I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

    Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

    More referring to being given the captaincy so early on.

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    #1262

    @Frank
    Not yet, that's for sure, but it is a form XV, not a possible AB team.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    Crazy Horse
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    #1263

    I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

    I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

    Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

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    cgrant
    wrote on last edited by
    #1265

    Rieko Ioane.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    #1266

    @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

    I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

    Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

    I'd suggest Jordie is pretty close too.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to cgrant on last edited by
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    @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    Maybe the forum is a week or two behind in assessing form but QT’s little sojourn on the wing has really lifted his confidence and ignited his play at 12.
    I wouldn’t be dismissive of his position in the pecking order just yet.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

    Yeah RI is all I came up with too - as a wing.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

    there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13

    He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by Crucial
    #1271

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

    there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13

    He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance

    I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing. He adds more to the team at centre with ALB gone. We can still put Reece and Jordan on the outsides. If the game plan calls for someone who can dot the ball in the corner through a tackle then we need to select one of those but not Ioane.

    Our back line picks itself at the moment. Need to work on the understudies though.

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