AB Props

[Old Samurai Jack]

@canefan The way I understood it is they were going in low and exploding upwards on their feet making clearing the breakdown more efficient. Maybe I took too much from the explanation but it made sense after watching the ABs get blown away by both the Irish and French in that area and the resultant space it created behind the AB pack.

[Duluth]

Ruck arrivals don't tell you everything (how effective are they once they get there etc)

Still, I thought these stats were interesting

Lomax is the first player to the ruck seven times per game on average – a stat more typical of a loose forward than a front-rower, while Hodgman averages 5.3 first arrivals per match. No other prop has been managing the same feat more than four times per game on average in the current season (with Joe Moody, Jermaine Ainsley, Ollie Norris and Aidan Ross all hitting that mark). In terms of overall offensive rucks hit, Lomax is again head and shoulders ahead of the flock, managing 106 this season (17.7 per game). Irish-born Crusaders prop Oli Jager’s 16.7 rucks per game is not far behind but only on seven occasions has Jager been the first player to a ruck – and therefore the most important player in the breakdown contest.

On the defensive side of the breakdown, Chiefs loosehead Ollie Norris (3.5 attended per game) and Hodgman (3.3) lead the charts in terms of industriousness, while they’re part of a five-strong group who have secured two turnovers each throughout the season.

[taniwharugby]

@old-samurai-jack staying on your feet is a no brainer, I mean when they clear well beyond the ruck which takes out other players not part of the ruck is the illegal part, but ideally you take thier man with you when you clean so he is involved in taking out one of his own players as well, harder to ping.

[Mackerzzzz]

Surely the mighty Williams needs a look in?

Although it may be a bit early for him

[Duluth]

Owen Franks confirms All Blacks aspirations ahead of injury-delayed Hurricanes debut

Three years after he was dropped from New Zealand's 2019 World Cup squad, Owen Franks wants to play for the All Blacks again.

Returning from an injury and relatively old.. I doubt his work around the field will suddenly get better now

[taniwharugby]

@Duluth guess he has seen how much work some of the current AB props do and thinks he's in with a shot

[Bones]

@Duluth really good at gym though eh

[cgrant]

In 2024, we might see Williams, Tosi and Ma'u with the black jersey. These young guys are huge.

[Higgins]

@cgrant Being huge doesn't always correlate into being All Black worthy. We will just have to wait and see the outcome on these guys. Look at Grant Batty for example, huge of heart and feistiness but small of stature.

[Machpants]

@Higgins said in AB Props:

@cgrant Being huge doesn't always correlate into being All Black worthy. We will just have to wait and see the outcome on these guys. Look at Grant Batty for example, huge of heart and feistiness but small of stature.

Ha, stop telling whoppers

[MN5]

@Bones said in AB Props:

@Duluth really good at gym though eh

Bro, does anything else even matter ?

[MN5]

@Higgins said in AB Props:

@cgrant Being huge doesn't always correlate into being All Black worthy. We will just have to wait and see the outcome on these guys. Look at Grant Batty for example, huge of heart and feistiness but small of stature.

…..and you can be small and a bit of a pussy in contact and still be an AB. Look at Foxy and Merhts !!!!