AB Props
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@machpants said in AB Props:
@nostrildamus said in AB Props:
@machpants said in AB Props:
@nostrildamus said in AB Props:
@mn5
And Bull Allen too.Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!
And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway
I think Genge is part vegan.
I was surprised to hear Nonu (not a prop but built like one) has been vegetarian for years...How can you be part vegan?
Vegan some days, on-off diet...
LOL so am I, that's not vegan that's just a varied diet
I'm just reporting, not claiming. There is a big vegan rugby league prop but he's the closest I know of in rugby union prop circles.
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Pretty sure Bull wasn't a vegetarian, IIRC he just didn't eat red meat and was actually the face of KFC fo a while.
You'd have to ask the man himself but recently he was written up as vegan (after his playing days I guess). The Destiny Church stuff is new to me.
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@machpants said in AB Props:
@nostrildamus said in AB Props:
@machpants said in AB Props:
@nostrildamus said in AB Props:
@mn5
And Bull Allen too.Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!
And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway
I think Genge is part vegan.
I was surprised to hear Nonu (not a prop but built like one) has been vegetarian for years...How can you be part vegan?
Vegan some days, on-off diet...
LOL so am I, that's not vegan that's just a varied diet
I eat some vegan foods. So screw you internet person, who are you to tell me I'm not vegan occasionally
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Alex Fidow is arguably the best ball carrying prop in New Zealand. However, his weakness in terms of scrummaging is a crippling flaw for higher honors. On Tuesday, his switch to the loose head gave interesting results as the Canes scrum was dominant. But it was only Moana Pasifika. I'd like to see him there against harder opposition (Reds, Brumbies). If he can hold his own against THPs like Tupou or Ala'atoa, then he could be considered for the national squad as the All Blacks do need a good ball carrying prop who can also do his core duties well enough.
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@cgrant Alex Fidow is overrated. His scrummaging is not the best, his work rate around the paddock and at the breakdown is not up to the same standard as Alex Hodgman or Daniel Leniert-Brown. Basing your observation one one game against an exhausted Moana Pasifika who have been playing short turn around games against the Blues and Hurricanes is not a good example.
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@stargazer a shift to 6 could be a master stroke.
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@number9 said in Alex Fidow's switch to the loose head : good news for the All Blacks ?:
@cgrant Alex Fidow is overrated. His scrummaging is not the best, his work rate around the paddock and at the breakdown is not up to the same standard as Alex Hodgman or Daniel Leniert-Brown. Basing your observation one one game against an exhausted Moana Pasifika who have been playing short turn around games against the Blues and Hurricanes is not a good example.
I think he’s perfectly rated. He may or may not be a good super player (let alone AB) - the jury is completely out on him.
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@gt12 said in Alex Fidow's switch to the loose head : good news for the All Blacks ?:
@number9 said in Alex Fidow's switch to the loose head : good news for the All Blacks ?:
@cgrant Alex Fidow is overrated. His scrummaging is not the best, his work rate around the paddock and at the breakdown is not up to the same standard as Alex Hodgman or Daniel Leniert-Brown. Basing your observation one one game against an exhausted Moana Pasifika who have been playing short turn around games against the Blues and Hurricanes is not a good example.
I think he’s perfectly rated. He may or may not be a good super player (let alone AB) - the jury is completely out on him.
Yeah can't recall seeing him rated.
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We have a good young ball carrying loosehead in Ethan de Groot
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This article discusses which props have been contributing the best to general play etc
Similar to what has been discussed in this thread and the (merged) Fidow thread
Is Ian Foster prepared to make a big call in the front row?
All Blacks head coach Ian Foster will have likely already seen enough throughout the first half of the Super Rugby Pacific season to begin pencilling in his props for upcoming July series with Ireland.
When it comes to work at the breakdown, the two standout performers in NZ are Tyrel Lomax and 2020 All Black Alex Hodgman.Possible props for All Blacks July squad: Joe Moody, Alex Hodgman, Ethan de Groot, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell, Ofa Tuungafasi -
@duluth having genuine ball running props has been a huge issue for a few years now, given when the ABs dominated everything, having skillful props was a cornerstone of our game.
If we get preops doing more of that, takes the heat off other players to carry the load of getting over the gainline.
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@taniwharugby said in AB Props:
@duluth having genuine ball running props has been a huge issue for a few years now, given when the ABs dominated everything, having skillful props was a cornerstone of our game.
If we get preops doing more of that, takes the heat off other players to carry the load of getting over the gainline.
Shifting bodies at breakdowns is the other issue. The whole tight five, but in particular the props, were terrible at it last year.
We get that right and several other problems with the AB general play will disappear
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@duluth The Breakdown highlighted the way the NH players were cleaning out rucks differently from the ABs and were getting quicker, cleaner ball. The AB forwards were going off their feet and the NH players were staying on their feet and clearing out people beyond the ball clearing space for their big ball runners. Basically, a small technical shift making a big difference.
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@old-samurai-jack said in AB Props:
clearing out people beyond the ball clearing space for their big ball runners
that is often illegal, but not always policed.
