SBW set to sign for......
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<p>Could say that about a lot of positions. Looking at the list shows a turnover that not many teams get. It looks worse when you think about the AB dominance.<br><br>
The skeleton is still there, with a lot of experience including SBW if he's available. You're not badly served, otherwise. Fekitoa will work will with anyone and guys like Crotty or Ngatai are good.<br><br>
It's the loss of combinations that take a little longer to get over.<br><br><br><br><br>
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You're a miserable fluffybunny. Could have just treated it like what it was: a joke.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Opinion on TSF is fairly even divided about the twat rating between you and I.<br><br>
And I'll point out I've been more on topic than you re: SBW. You just came in, dropped a one liner about my point being retarded, then saw your trigger word and let fly.<br><br>
Who is the shit stirrer?</p>
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<p>Mention that you don't like Superhero movies too NTA, you KNOW you want to.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="583827" data-time="1464555574"><p>Wtf? All I wrote was that Id like to see him commit to the abs for a decent length of time but it would be out of character for him to do so.<br><br>
What part of that is incorrect or is an attempt to start an argument.<br><br></p></blockquote>
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The part about character. <br><br>
He has committed to his employer for a decent length of time. <br>
They are happy he is with the All Black Sevens and would be happy if he was with the All Black 15s. Had Barrett also gone to the Sevens would you be questioning his commitment to the ABs?<br>
As for your other silly comments I have explained plenty that I just get sick of the bullshit talkback type comments that get directed at the guy. For years we had people claiming that he was a self centred glory seeker which has finally calmed down after numerous respected coaches have sung his praises for being unselfish. <br>
I would guess Dan Carter has sold his stories to women's magazines far more than SBW and has also insisted on contracts that allow him to do stuff away from the ABs yet he doesn't cop half the stuff SBW does. -
<p>I can actually see both sides to that debate. It is out of character for SBW to sign longer than a year or two,but at the same time, I have not seen anything from him since he first came to rugby to show he is anything but a likeable good team member,</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="583861" data-time="1464560900"><p>Take your blinkers off, Carter was a loyal All Black for 12 years.<br><br>
Stupid comparison</p></blockquote>
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Happy to insist on a sabbatical to earn money overseas as well and not be available for selection. <br>
Yes, DC was dedicated to the black jersey but if you apply the same logic so is SBW. <br>
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<p>Like it or not his every move is scrutinized more than ANY AB I can think of apart from one who tragically passed away in November.</p>
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<p>I mean, as an example, what's Richard Kahui up to these days ? a much bigger part of the ABs winning the 2011 WC than SBW but no one pays him much mind.....as a centre/wing he'd be a great addition to the squad and is an age where he has quite a few years left.</p> -
<p>scrutinized the same media that have given more media coverage to HIlary Barry resigning than the Bachelor (no idea if that is true, but that died down quickly, we are still mourning HIlary)</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="583888" data-time="1464561950"><p>Like it or not his every move is scrutinized more than ANY AB I can think of apart from one who tragically passed away in November.<br><br>
I mean, as an example, what's Richard Kahui up to these days ? a much bigger part of the ABs winning the 2011 WC than SBW but no one pays him much mind.....as a centre/wing he'd be a great addition to the squad and is an age where he has quite a few years left.</p></blockquote>
On the up bro! Kahui was 2011, that's less than 5 years ago. Solid. -
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<p>On the up bro! Kahui was 2011, that's less than 5 years ago. Solid.</p>
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<p>I cut my sidies much shorter these days too. I might even get one of those "short back and sides" do's as well to keep up with the cool kids.</p> -
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<p>what about rats tails?</p>
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<p>The part about character.<br><br>
He has committed to his employer for a decent length of time.<br>
They are happy he is with the All Black Sevens and would be happy if he was with the All Black 15s. Had Barrett also gone to the Sevens would you be questioning his commitment to the ABs?<br>
As for your other silly comments I have explained plenty that I just get sick of the bullshit talkback type comments that get directed at the guy. For years we had people claiming that he was a self centred glory seeker which has finally calmed down after numerous respected coaches have sung his praises for being unselfish.<br>
I would guess Dan Carter has sold his stories to women's magazines far more than SBW and has also insisted on contracts that allow him to do stuff away from the ABs yet he doesn't cop half the stuff SBW does.</p>
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So for the 3rd time: I never questioned his professionalism, ability as a player or personal attributes. I merely said that it would be nice for him to hang around for a decent length of time but that isn't something he has shown a tendency to do before. Now wtf is wrong with that?<br><br>
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<p>Happy to insist on a sabbatical to earn money overseas as well and not be available for selection.<br>
Yes, DC was dedicated to the black jersey but if you apply the same logic so is SBW.<br>
BBBT is probably the better example of a code hopper and I have no problem there either.</p>
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<p>No one here is saying that SBW isn't dedicated to the All Blacks or 7's while he is playing for them. Rancid is just saying he is happy to see SBW commit to the All Blacks for a long period of time which SBW has not yet done. You're not really disagreeing with Rancid at all. You are disagreeing with bullshit talkback callers who haven't even posted in this thread.</p> -
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No one is saying that SBW isn't dedicated to the All Blacks or 7's while he is playing for them. Rancid is just saying he is happy to see SBW commit to the All Blacks for a long period of time which SBW has not yet done. You're not really disagreeing with Rancid at all. You are disagreeing with bullshit talkback callers who haven't even posted in this thread.</p></blockquote>
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Exactly, but that's Crucial's problem. He loves the guy so much that he sees slander or is looking for slander in pretty anything written about the guy. In this case he's apparently responding to remarks that no one here actually made.<br><br>
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<p>As an AB supporter, I naturally like the players who totally commit to my team more than those who commit for a year, then do something else, then come back, then go again.</p>
<p>I'd happily see SBW in the side to help my team, but I'll never really warm to him as much as those who go all in.</p> -
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So for the 3rd time: I never questioned his professionalism, ability as a player or personal attributes. I merely said that it would be nice for him to hang around for a decent length of time but that isn't something he has shown a tendency to do before. Now wtf is wrong with that?<br><br></p></blockquote>
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Why write that it is "out of character" for him to commit for long periods if not having a dig?<br>
Seems like you are changing the intent of your post to me. But if I have misunderstood them I apologise. <br>
I can't see why his character is questioned on a basis not applied to others that's all.<br>
His contract with the NZRU is as long as others sign for.
