Chris Gayle. Stay Classy
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<p>If you are at the supermarket and ask out the checkout girl, you are a dick. The checkout girl has no power. She is at work and the customer is always right. What could Mel do? Tell Gayle to 'get fucked' on live television? Slap him? No she couldn't do that because she was working and had a job to do.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure how you've been turned down in the past, but there are certainly levels between "yes" and "fuck off creep" slap </p> -
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<p>I'm not sure how you've been turned down in the past, but there are certainly levels between "yes" and "fuck off creep" slap </p>
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<p>M4L would definitely know this from his formative years too hydro11 so don't even bother arguing his expertise in this.</p> -
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<p><strong>If you are at the supermarket and ask out the checkout girl, you are a dick</strong>. The checkout girl has no power. She is at work and the customer is always right. What could Mel do? Tell Gayle to 'get fucked' on live television? Slap him? No she couldn't do that because she was working and had a job to do.</p>
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<p>really? Why?</p>
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<p>She can say thanks but no thanks....</p>
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<p>Mel did pretty much all she could, looked embarrassed by it...now I agree Gayle comes across as an arrogant twat who doesn't really give a shit what people think and his apology was meaningless, not sure on your angle here.</p> -
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<p>He shouldn't have to but you judge him all the same ? I don't really get that.... </p>
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<p>So he's not the absolute first name but he still makes the team right ? It's a batsman's game so depending on which discipline you favour then it could well be Starc or him I'll give you that but saying he "just" keeps Warner out is ridiculous given what he brings to a team when on song.....which is often.</p>
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<p>How do you not get that? It's pretty simple. I don't think people should be obliged to apologise. If you make someone apologise then you do not know whether or not they are really sorry when they do. I would rather people be honest. If someone is racist or sexist, I would like to know. That way I can choose to not interact with them. Gayle is clearly not sorry for what he did so he should not apologise. However, I think he should be sorry for what he did. He just isn't.</p>
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<p>Have you seen Warner when he is on song? Warner is in far better form than Gayle. He has had a good IPL and would certainly be in any team on form. I don't think T20 is anything close to a batsman's game. Starc is so head and shoulders ahead of the next best quick bowler. A good bowler can make a huge difference</p> -
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<p>really? Why?</p>
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<p>She can say thanks but no thanks....</p>
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<p>Mel did pretty much all she could, looked embarrassed by it...now I agree Gayle comes across as an arrogant twat who doesn't really give a shit what people think and his apology was meaningless, not sure on your angle here.</p>
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<p>If you are allowed to ask people out at work, then how was what Gayle did wrong?</p> -
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<p>How do you not get that? It's pretty simple. I don't think people should be obliged to apologise. If you make someone apologise then you do not know whether or not they are really sorry when they do. I would rather people be honest. If someone is racist or sexist, I would like to know. That way I can choose to not interact with them. <strong>Gayle is clearly not sorry for what he did so he should not apologise. However, I think he should be sorry for what he did.</strong></p>
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<p>But not apologise though right ?</p>
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<p>Back in 2004 I asked a hot barmaid out, she turned me down on account of her "boyfriend" who was the manager. I was understandably crestfallen however the blow was softened upon seeing her arm in arm with this bloke some months later which proved she was actually in a relationship with him and not just yarning to get rid of me.....</p>
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<p>She may have been distressed though, should I have apologised ?</p> -
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<p>I'm not sure how you've been turned down in the past, but there are certainly levels between "yes" and "fuck off creep" slap </p>
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<p>All of which are difficult to say when you are in a low power situation.</p> -
<p>it is what he said and the way he did it that I think is dickish...plus it was just for the attention, if he was genuine about asking her out, I am sure he could have done it more discreetly.</p>
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<p>But not apologise though right ?</p>
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<p>Back in 2004 I asked a hot barmaid out, she turned me down on account of her "boyfriend" who was the manager. I was understandably crestfallen however the blow was softened upon seeing her arm in arm with this bloke some months later which proved she was actually in a relationship with him and not just yarning to get rid of me.....</p>
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<p>She may have been distressed though, should I have apologised ?</p>
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<p>It depends how you asked her out. Were the two of you alone at the time? Was she busy at work? Had you spoken first? How did you ask her out?</p> -
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<p>it is what he said and the way he did it that I think is dickish...plus it was just for the attention, if he was genuine about asking her out, I am sure he could have done it more discreetly.</p>
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<p>So it would be okay if Gayle asked her out in a way that wasn't dickish? If Gayle wasn't joking, it would be okay?</p>
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<p>I think it would have been fine if Gayle spoke to her at a time when she wasn't working and asked her out as long as the two of them were alone.</p> -
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<p>It depends how you asked her out. Were the two of you alone at the time? Was she busy at work? Had you spoken first? How did you ask her out?</p>
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<p>To answer each question......</p>
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<p>no</p>
<p>yes</p>
<p>yes</p>
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<p>All of which are difficult to say when you are in a low power situation.</p>
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<p>not really, i've had to do it a couple of times, in both a hospitality and a professional environment.</p>
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<p>Have you got a guide book about what is and is not acceptable so we can all adhere to your strict moral code? It's clear you have a set process that must be followed to avoid being a dick </p> -
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<p>If you are at the supermarket and ask out the checkout girl, you are a dick. The checkout girl has no power. She is at work and the customer is always right. What could Mel do? Tell Gayle to 'get fucked' on live television? Slap him? No she couldn't do that because she was working and had a job to do.</p>
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<p>WTF? How are you a dick? Perhaps you should wait for her behind the supermarket until she finishes her shift. Yeah, that would be much better. Nothing weird about that.</p>
<p>It would take serious balls to ask a checkout girl out considering the odds of success are ridiculously low. It must be so terrible to be her. A guy thinks she's attractive and wants to ask her out. The swine. How could he do such a terrible thing.</p> -
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<p>not really, i've had to do it a couple of times, in both a hospitality and a professional environment.</p>
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<p>Have you got a guide book about what is and is not acceptable so we can all adhere to your strict moral code? It's clear you have a set process that must be followed to avoid being a dick </p>
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<p>These things are more difficult when you are woman.</p>
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<p>You can do whatever you want. I'm just telling you what I think. I don't know where I have said that people should follow my code. Remember I was against Gayle being fined any money at all. I just think his actions made him look like a dickhead but I think he should have faced no repercussions for them.</p> -
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<p>These things are more difficult when you are woman.</p>
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<p>You can do whatever you want. I'm just telling you what I think. I don't know where I have said that people should follow my code. Remember I was against Gayle being fined any money at all. I just think his actions made him look like a dickhead but I think he should have faced no repercussions for them.</p>
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<p>now who is fucking sexist??!!</p> -
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<p>not really, i've had to do it a couple of times, in both a hospitality and a professional environment.</p>
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<p>Have you got a guide book about what is and is not acceptable so we can all adhere to your strict moral code? It's clear you have a set process that must be followed to avoid being a dick </p>
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<p>Further to what hydro11 and the moral crusaders are getting at in my situation I was a pretty big cheese at telecom. I wore a suit and had a company credit card. Not quite earning millions playing IPL but still way further up the ladder than a lowly hospo worker.</p>
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<p>In retrospect I did abuse my power. Hugely. I'm hunting this chick down to apologise for the trauma of the last 12 years.</p> -
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<p>All of which are difficult to say when you are in a low power situation.</p>
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<p>Low power? Bull fucking shit. You have all the power. You're not being forced to do anything you don't want to do.</p> -
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<p>So it would be okay if Gayle asked her out in a way that wasn't dickish? If Gayle wasn't joking, it would be okay?</p>
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<p>I think it would have been fine if Gayle spoke to her at a time when she wasn't working and asked her out as long as the two of them were alone.</p>
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<p>I guess you are discussing this with so many people you are not actually reading what people have written.</p> -
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<p>These things are more difficult when you are woman.</p>
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<p>Step right up, folks! Post of the year right here!!</p>
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<p>Right before I open a door for a woman of offer to lift something heavy, that is always what I say to them.</p>
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<p>Things are more difficult for a woman! They love it!! Especially in the work place, that goes down a real treat!</p> -
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<p>I guess you are discussing this with so many people you are not actually reading what people have written.</p>
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<p>I just wonder how anyone met anyone of the opposite sex before Tinder was invented......</p>
