All Blacks 2021
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Ányway if our forward pack is losing the battle (which I don't disagree with) let's hear opinions on who should be in there. I am trying to think who else I would bring in to strengthen the pack. I worry a bit about my favourite Sam Whitelock, at times looks a little weary, and Retallic I think will be better for a season of super after a couple of years in Japan. Definitely think we are stronger with Cane on side of scrum, just got to get right players at 6 & 8 so I reckon Ardie has got 8 tied up at this stage.
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@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
Ányway if our forward pack is losing the battle (which I don't disagree with) let's hear opinions on who should be in there. I am trying to think who else I would bring in to strengthen the pack. I worry a bit about my favourite Sam Whitelock, at times looks a little weary, and Retallic I think will be better for a season of super after a couple of years in Japan. Definitely think we are stronger with Cane on side of scrum, just got to get right players at 6 & 8 so I reckon Ardie has got 8 tied up at this stage.
Ardie is the 'problem' really. Very skilled, dynamic and a leader. Trouble is that his value drops a touch against well drilled hard nose opposition. 90% of the time he is the experienced first choice but that makes him really hard to drop for the other 10%.
I think that with Cane back the balance is better though. His accuracy in the tackle and ability to stop momentum is much better than our alternatives atm.
We do need our 6 to be playing tighter though. We need tackle impact and leg drive there. The shuffling last year (which I do understand was maybe necessary) didn't help cement that spot but it did provide experience and show areas for work.
I also hope that BBBR comes back his old self this year and if Sam is fading then he becomes a starter or finisher depending on the game.
Front row go forward is our biggest need. We have the solution at hooker but need to retire the old boys. Our props though aren't hitting hard enough or driving well enough. Again we are at a crossroads where experience maybe needs to make way for youth.Short answer is that we are still identifying and assessing the player solutions but need to nail them into place this year.
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@crucial said in All Blacks 2021:
@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
Ányway if our forward pack is losing the battle (which I don't disagree with) let's hear opinions on who should be in there. I am trying to think who else I would bring in to strengthen the pack. I worry a bit about my favourite Sam Whitelock, at times looks a little weary, and Retallic I think will be better for a season of super after a couple of years in Japan. Definitely think we are stronger with Cane on side of scrum, just got to get right players at 6 & 8 so I reckon Ardie has got 8 tied up at this stage.
Ardie is the 'problem' really. Very skilled, dynamic and a leader. Trouble is that his value drops a touch against well drilled hard nose opposition. 90% of the time he is the experienced first choice but that makes him really hard to drop for the other 10%.
I think that with Cane back the balance is better though. His accuracy in the tackle and ability to stop momentum is much better than our alternatives atm.
We do need our 6 to be playing tighter though. We need tackle impact and leg drive there. The shuffling last year (which I do understand was maybe necessary) didn't help cement that spot but it did provide experience and show areas for work.
I also hope that BBBR comes back his old self this year and if Sam is fading then he becomes a starter or finisher depending on the game.
Front row go forward is our biggest need. We have the solution at hooker but need to retire the old boys. Our props though aren't hitting hard enough or driving well enough. Again we are at a crossroads where experience maybe needs to make way for youth.Short answer is that we are still identifying and assessing the player solutions but need to nail them into place this year.
I not convinced that Codie Taylor is done yet, but would like to see him look a bit refreshed in Super, I actually wonder if like Sam W one of his problems is he carries to big of a workload at Crusaders and wonder if Razor could not work them so hard. Fron Feb to Nov is a bloody long season, I actually thought Sam was a bit better at end of season after his break for bub. I a bit interested to see how Tamaiti Williams goes for Crusaders, but suspect his time maybe a couple of years away as yet. Same as Lord and Vaií in second row , really a fan of both players but another year or two wouldn't go astray.
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I would love to see a bunch of Samisonis appear this year. Guys that instantly show impact at test level despite low experience levels.
The difference in go forward whenever he took the field was noticeable.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@crucial I'm also hoping that Taukei'aho will take another step up for the Chiefs with his added confidence in black.
Hopefully with BBBR back and our other locks, he’ll have some good targets to throw at. If we can get strong at set piece, we’ll be a tricky team to play. We won’t win it, but hopefully we’ll fuck it up for the Saders
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
Hopefully with BBBR back
He will blow out his shoulder in the 3rd round.
Fark right orf!!!
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I did not write this article:
Crusaders enter 2022 with more to prove as last year's worst All Blacks performers
Oddly, however, the All Blacks in Robertson's squad enter 2022 having been categorically some of the worst performers in the national side last year, with the sole exception of Will Jordan.
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
I did not write this article:
Crusaders enter 2022 with more to prove as last year's worst All Blacks performers
Oddly, however, the All Blacks in Robertson's squad enter 2022 having been categorically some of the worst performers in the national side last year, with the sole exception of Will Jordan.
Harsh but true
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@crucial said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
I did not write this article:
Crusaders enter 2022 with more to prove as last year's worst All Blacks performers
Oddly, however, the All Blacks in Robertson's squad enter 2022 having been categorically some of the worst performers in the national side last year, with the sole exception of Will Jordan.
Harsh but true
Beat me to it
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
I did not write this article:
Crusaders enter 2022 with more to prove as last year's worst All Blacks performers
Oddly, however, the All Blacks in Robertson's squad enter 2022 having been categorically some of the worst performers in the national side last year, with the sole exception of Will Jordan.
Harsh but true
Beat me to it
All I can think of reading this is they wouldn't have run through Samisoni (and up to this year I was a Taylor fan).
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/crusaders-enter-2022-with-more-to-prove-as-last-years-worst-all-blacks-performers/
I can't disagree with much of the article. I thought overall Moody was not the worst of the props, but I guess more is expected of him. They kept playing Havili when his confidence was gone (and against big midfields) so I'd actually lay some of the blame at the feet of the coaches. As for Bridge. Well. He only helps across very small and slow moving streams. -
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
this will be taken incorrectly by some but
I have seen many instances in other sports where head coaches are dead men walking, blokes thought ot not have a fucking clue, and the popular opinion was they needed to be sacked. They changed all the assistants and lo, there was a huge turn around in results.
One for a couple of guys on here is Damien Hardwick Richmond were trapped at 9th, they were going nowhere, and everyone thought the coach should get fired. Richmond kept him, but got rid of heaps of others. What, 5 years later he's regarded as basically the best coach in the league, with Richmond being the best side over that time, winning a bunch of flags.
You do realize you are recommending assistant coach changes but also 5 years of Foster as AB head coach?!
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@sbw1 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus Does anyone anticipate further regig of the assistant coaching staff?
I like this regig word. But I don't know.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@sbw1 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus Does anyone anticipate further regig of the assistant coaching staff?
I like this regig word. But I don't know.
I prefer Gallow's for the whole coaching staff.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
Is that a new tactic by the AB coaches against a rushing defence ? ...sounds about right
I am still wondering about your proposed tactics to beat the rush defence please.
Have said before use deep wiper kicks behind them into the corners or towards the sideline, they're all up flat so they have to scramble back, there's always plenty of space behind a flat defence, Frans Steyn did it brilliantly for the Boks against us.
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@crucial said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
I did not write this article:
Crusaders enter 2022 with more to prove as last year's worst All Blacks performers
Oddly, however, the All Blacks in Robertson's squad enter 2022 having been categorically some of the worst performers in the national side last year, with the sole exception of Will Jordan.
Harsh but true
Basically saying super rugby is their level, and some not up to test standard I guess, as you say maybe harsh but true.
What the write up says is too many of them (and he mentioning Mounga ) don't step up.
Seems some players like Sammisona? etc are able to step up. I didn't think Barrett waqs bad, and Codie Taylor just looked stuffed. Bridge and Ennor have probably never convinced me at test level either. Yet the likes of Sevu Reece, Jordan etc are quite capable of higher levels, have seen it in rugby for years! -
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
Is that a new tactic by the AB coaches against a rushing defence ? ...sounds about right
I am still wondering about your proposed tactics to beat the rush defence please.
Have said before use deep wiper kicks behind them into the corners or towards the sideline, they're all up flat so they have to scramble back, there's always plenty of space behind a flat defence, Frans Steyn did it brilliantly for the Boks against us.
Thanks. That certainly addresses when we get the ball in the middle of the field (I expect between our 22 and attacking 10m or so) but does potentially give them the ball.
Also, would like your opinion on how to beat it when we want to try and attack with ball in hand closer to the try line.
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@hooroo said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
Of course all the the members are not happy with the current coaching set up fellas, that's a given, otherwise they may as well be on a knitting forum
...I'm saying would like to see more analysing in depth about it.You need to reword your statements to something we understand.
"It amazes me though how some here hardly ever question this current coaching staff - anyone that knows their rugby properly can see where we are going wrong & can also see what adjustments need to be made to fix it."
That doesn't equal what you have just post.
Because have posted it in more detail earlier in this thread, which is basically the following :
Forwards need to take the ball up with much more urgency, then consistently get more numbers there to protect our ball carrier by continually cleaning opposition players out so we can keep securing possession through the phases, also allows us to get quicker recycled ball so 9 & 10 have a bit more time & space to create good attacking opportunities.
Our paymakers in the backs are lacking some composure... they need to be reading situations better & executing more accurately.
