All Blacks 2021
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@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
Foster was an average head coach for the Chiefs... when Rennie replaced him there was a big improvement straightaway, in his first year the Chiefs won the Super Rugby title,
Once again think you cherry picking facts mate. You conveniently mange to dodge the fact that the first year Rennie coached the Chiefs , he had the chance to pick such players as Brodie Retallic , Aaron Cruden SBW etc as it was 2012 when the change came in on contracting players outside of the Franchises region. I sure Wayne Smith was of great assistance to Rennie too as he hasn't won a comp since he had him as assistant!
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@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
Foster was an average head coach for the Chiefs... when Rennie replaced him there was a big improvement straightaway, in his first year the Chiefs won the Super Rugby title,
Once again think you cherry picking facts mate. You conveniently mange to dodge the fact that the first year Rennie coached the Chiefs , he had the chance to pick such players as Brodie Retallic , Aaron Cruden SBW etc as it was 2012 when the change came in on contracting players outside of the Franchises region. I sure Wayne Smith was of great assistance to Rennie too as he hasn't won a comp since he had him as assistant!
What ? the fact is Rennie has a far more impressive head coaching record at Super Rugby level than Foster - sure Wayne Smith would've been a very good asset for him as an assistant, especially as a defence coach... but it's always the head coach that has the final say about the squad, starting 15 & bench, tactics & when to read from the stand when a player isn't playing well & needs to be replaced etc.
It's pretty obvious the current AB head & assistant coaches are out of their depth, the last two tests are obvious examples of that - we were bloody dreadful in the forwards, so we got completely out played by the Irish & French packs, also our playmakers were just as bad making too many poor decisions... it was bad enough to play an absolute shocker against Ireland, but to not learn from it by repeating the same shite performance against France was unbelievable !!!
If your forwards are not doing the hard yakka & your playmakers are not doing the job either it's up to the coaches to give them a bloody good shake up to get them back on track again.
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Is that a new tactic by the AB coaches against a rushing defence ? ...sounds about right
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you mean here you moan again.
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@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
you mean here you moan again.
No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.
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@chris said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
you mean here you moan again.
No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.
If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.
You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?
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@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
What ? the fact is Rennie has a far more impressive head coaching record at Super Rugby level than Foster - sure Wayne Smith would've been a very good asset for him as an assistant, especially as a defence coach...
Maybe, but as @kiwi_expat has argued, the connection between success (or not) at Super Rugby level and Test level is pretty tenuous at best.
Here's Rennie's International record
And here's Foster's
but it's always the head coach that has the final say about the squad, starting 15 & bench, tactics & when to read from the stand when a player isn't playing well & needs to be replaced etc.
I completely agree. Which is why I find the idea that the current dip in AB performance, from the time he became Hansen's assistant, is down to Foster a rather silly one
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@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
you mean here you moan again.
No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.
If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.
You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?
You got the right person? Unless I'm missing something, Chris is not on the Foster bandwagon...
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@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
Foster was an average head coach for the Chiefs... when Rennie replaced him there was a big improvement straightaway, in his first year the Chiefs won the Super Rugby title,
Once again think you cherry picking facts mate. You conveniently mange to dodge the fact that the first year Rennie coached the Chiefs , he had the chance to pick such players as Brodie Retallic , Aaron Cruden SBW etc as it was 2012 when the change came in on contracting players outside of the Franchises region. I sure Wayne Smith was of great assistance to Rennie too as he hasn't won a comp since he had him as assistant!
What ? the fact is Rennie has a far more impressive head coaching record at Super Rugby level than Foster -
Yep well and Foster has a far more impressive record than Rennie at international rugby,(and head to head Foster is well ahead) but that doesn't make Rennie a bad coach in my opinion, I actually like Rennie, but if you want to cerry pick facts it would seem he is not very good.
That is all I say, we can cherry pick facts to make anyone look good or bad, can do the same with any coach, just look at which part of their record that suits our argument. -
@dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:
Yep well and Foster has a far more impressive record than Rennie at international rugby,(and head to head Foster is well ahead)
got to say, how would the results look if they swapped coaches? I'd be very surprised if a Foster-coached Aussie side burgled a single win against at Rennie-coached AB side.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
you mean here you moan again.
No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.
If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.
You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?
You got the right person? Unless I'm missing something, Chris is not on the Foster bandwagon...
You might have missed the fun, I think it could even have been a fern first. @Chris first entered the fray by saying he agreed with @NZbloke, who then promptly replied essentially calling him an idiot or some such. Pure gold.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
you mean here you moan again.
No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.
If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.
You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?
You got the right person? Unless I'm missing something, Chris is not on the Foster bandwagon...
You might have missed the fun, I think it could even have been a fern first. @Chris first entered the fray by saying he agreed with @NZbloke, who then promptly replied essentially calling him an idiot or some such. Pure gold.
It's like The Ghost of the Baron has appeared.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
you mean here you moan again.
No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.
If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.
You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?
You got the right person? Unless I'm missing something, Chris is not on the Foster bandwagon...
You might have missed the fun, I think it could even have been a fern first. @Chris first entered the fray by saying he agreed with @NZbloke, who then promptly replied essentially calling him an idiot or some such. Pure gold.
Pretty early in a ferner's time to be posting drunk.... 👍
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@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
Is that a new tactic by the AB coaches against a rushing defence ? ...sounds about right
I am still wondering about your proposed tactics to beat the rush defence please.
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@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
you mean here you moan again.
No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.
If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.
You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?
When have I ever said that ,
Read my posts I have smashed Foster for 2 years .
I have been one of his biggest critics.So more crap from you yet again.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:
you mean here you moan again.
No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.
If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.
You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?
You got the right person? Unless I'm missing something, Chris is not on the Foster bandwagon...
Never have been ,quite the opposite.
I think he is a bit confused.
