Chris Gayle. Stay Classy
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<p>if I said that to a colleague I expect I'd be up for sexual harrassment.</p>
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<p>Being offended by sexist comments is THE normal response for people who don't like sexism (I'd hate it if anyone talked to my partner, mother, or sister like that).</p>
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<p>It is not about people being offended because Gayle says something people don't like; it's about people being offended because he says sexist things. That's not "looking to be offended". Calling him a sexist is a fact, not name-calling; there is not a shred of doubt that he is a sexist if you've read/heard what he has said. Calling him a creep, yes, that's name-calling.</p>
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<p>The only reason why society is getting stricter on people saying sexist things is because society finally starts to understand (well, most people anyway, not everyone on the Fern apparently) that sexism is unacceptable. Just like racism and any other discriminatory behaviour.</p>
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<p>Care to elaborate on who on the fern finds sexism acceptable?</p>
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<p>I think the article was just lame in general.Why didnt she walk out after the first comment? Why did her company publish the remarks.</p>
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<p>...It is not about people being offended because Gayle says something people don't like; it's about people being offended because he says sexist things. That's not "looking to be offended". Calling him a sexist is a fact, not name-calling; there is not a shred of doubt that he is a sexist if you've read/heard what he has said. Calling him a creep, yes, that's name-calling...</p>
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<p>Is sexist creep an acceptable mid point or still name calling? I'm confused.</p> -
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He called his new daughter "Blush"<br><br>
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Exactly. He feeds off this shit. Ignore him and he goes away. <br><br>
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if I said that to a colleague I expect I'd be up for sexual harrassment.<br><br>
Is just lame and unprofessional really.</p></blockquote>
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In your work place is it permissible for female members of staff to ask about your sexual history and your views of women's role in the home? <br><br>
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<p>In your work place is it permissible for female members of staff to ask about your sexual history and your views of women's role in the home?<br><br>
Massive false equivalence.</p>
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<p>Were those questions asked of him or did he simply make those statements? Reading the article in the OP it seems to me it's the latter.</p> -
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Massive false equivalence.</p></blockquote>
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He is being interviewed as a cricketer is he not? <br><br>
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He is being interviewed as a cricketer is he not? <br><br>
Still unprofessional of him...or is he using the she started it defence?</p></blockquote>
I don't think he is defending his comments. He likely stands behind them and couldn't care about the reaction.<br><br>
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Jeez you are contrary knob just for the sake of it....I have no idea about the times lift out, he is still a bit of a knob and unprofessional. <br><br>
As to the accountant pro-athlete, wtf are you on? They both are supposed to abide by the same laws as others, or are you one of these ones that thinks sports stars get a free pass?<br><br>
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Jeez you are contrary knob just for the sake of it....I have no idea about the times lift out, he is still a bit of a knob and unprofessional. <br><br>
As to the accountant pro-athlete, wtf are you on? They both are supposed to abide by the same laws as others, or are you one of these ones that thinks sports stars get a free pass?<br><br>
I'm not an accountant btw.</p></blockquote>
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What laws has he broken? I'm unaware of the laws of India but I will venture he has not broken any. If he wants to say these things and come off like a goof then he can.<br><br>
It is just a pet peeve when people try to compare celebrities/athletes whomever to whatever office job you choose. They are different.<br><br>
Judge them on what they say, just as you would anyone, but their is no position in your job outside of a celebrity where you would be required to answer the questions Gayle was asked here. If you were a trip to HR would be appropriate. -
<p>I m judging him on what he has said, they are pretty low brow and in any other situation could be construed as sexual harassment, we most certainly can compare him to any other persons job, they are people too, just because they are famous they shouldnt get the right to act and behave differently (although the courts and governing bodies sometimes disagree)</p>
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Just that the lines he uses in that interview are a bit weird. I mean, 'do you dye your hair' while looking at her crotch... I can't see how that would be effective in any scenario.</p></blockquote>
This is missing the "for the bros" viewpoint. Its not all about getting a bit. Gayle is a aware of his audience and a good portion of this nonsense is for him to have a laugh with his boys later on. Or to appear cool to his fans. Its not all about picking up.<br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="581372" data-time="1463824837"><p><a class="bbc_url" href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/80244216/Chris-Gayle-involved-in-another-sexist-outburst-to-a-female-journalist">http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/80244216/Chris-Gayle-involved-in-another-sexist-outburst-to-a-female-journalist</a><br><br></p></blockquote>
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I don't know, your panties sound a bit bunched</p></blockquote>
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Maybe ... but I just found his comments crass and classless. As i said I'm not "offended" but I do judge him as a person as a result of his repeated sleaziness.<br><br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Razbra" data-cid="581728" data-time="1463950684"><p>
This is missing the "for the bros" viewpoint. Its not all about getting a bit. Gayle is a aware of his audience and a good portion of this nonsense is for him to have a laugh with his boys later on.<strong> Or to appear cool</strong> to his fans. Its not all about picking up.<br><br><br>
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My feeling there is that anyone who has to try that hard to appear cool really just isn't.<br><br>
He's damaged his image as the cool laid back totally in control dude. Screaming "look at me! I've got a big dick!" is kind of juvenile. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="581733" data-time="1463954926"><p>Maybe ... but I just found his comments crass and classless. As i said I'm not "offended" but I do judge him as a person as a result of his repeated sleaziness.<br><br><br><br>
My feeling there is that anyone who has to try that hard to appear cool really just isn't.<br><br>
He's damaged his image as the cool laid back totally in control dude. Screaming "look at me! I've got a big dick!" is kind of juvenile.</p></blockquote>
I agree. But you can tell so much of this is looking down the camera lens looking directly at his mates.<br><br>
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<p>I'm not offended at the comments, like Barbarian said, they are pretty fucking lame in the scheme of things.</p>
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<p>What disgusts me is the situation in which they were made. Female sports journalists shouldn't have to put up with that shit at work. End of.</p>
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<p>Come off it. The whole thing was a set-up for sure. The magazine wanted him to make some shitty comments, so they sent across an attractive female reporter. She would have known what she was getting herself into.</p>
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<p>I wouldn't interview a leftard as I don't have time for idiots, so why would an attractive female journalist choose to interview Gayle and talk about all the woman he's apparently slept with.</p>
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<p>The reaction to what is clearly a contrived setup situation is equally as shitty as his responses. He looks like a dick which was clearly the entire point of the whole thing. Lets not start this shit about the "poor woman".</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="581754" data-time="1463961933"><p>Come off it. The whole thing was a set-up for sure. The magazine wanted him to make some shitty comments, so they sent across an attractive female reporter. She would have known what she was getting herself into.<br> <br>I wouldn't interview a leftard as I don't have time for idiots, so why would an attractive female journalist choose to interview Gayle and talk about all the woman he's apparently slept with.<br> <br>The reaction to what is clearly a contrived setup situation is equally as shitty as his responses. He looks like a dick which was clearly the entire point of the whole thing. Lets not start this shit about the "poor woman".</p></blockquote><br>I haven't read the article, nor was I an attendee at the interview, but Charlotte Edwardes is an interviewer and feature writer for the Times. It's unlikely they said Gayle's agreed to an interview so send a moderately attractive woman in an inappropriate dress in the hope that he makes a dick of himself. But having done so, of course they've amplified the awareness in order to sell copy. That's what the media does when an interviewee trods on their dick.<br><br>Or was his dickishness with Mel McLaughlin a set up too?
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<p>I haven't read the article, nor was I an attendee at the interview, but Charlotte Edwardes is an interviewer and feature writer for the Times<strong>. It's unlikely they said Gayle's agreed to an interview so send a moderately attractive woman in an inappropriate dress in the hope that he makes a dick of himself</strong>. But having done so, of course they've amplified the awareness in order to sell copy. That's what the media does when an interviewee trods on their dick.<br><br>
Or was his dickishness with Mel McLaughlin a set up too?</p>
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<p>I disagree with the bolded part. I think that was the whole point.</p>
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<p>I'm suggesting the Edwards thing was on the back of the McLaughlin thing. </p>
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<p>If you are insinuating what I think you are, then the point I was making is about 2 miles in front of me and your about 2 miles behind.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="581822" data-time="1463971674"><p>If you are insinuating what I think you are, then the point I was making is about 2 miles in front of me and your about 2 miles behind.</p></blockquote><br>I wouldn't go inferring anything - I meant what I wrote explicitly.
