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  • BonesB Offline
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    @machpants said in NH club rugby:

    @bones said in NH club rugby:

    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    “cultural appropriation”

    Care to enlighten?

    Exeter chiefs using American Indian Chief as their symbol, also supporters wearing faux Indian headdress. Not like Celtic Exeter had its own chiefs it could use!

    I'm pretty sure Wasps haven't signed up any actual Wasps.

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    @bones said in NH club rugby:

    @machpants said in NH club rugby:

    @bones said in NH club rugby:

    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    “cultural appropriation”

    Care to enlighten?

    Exeter chiefs using American Indian Chief as their symbol, also supporters wearing faux Indian headdress. Not like Celtic Exeter had its own chiefs it could use!

    I'm pretty sure Wasps haven't signed up any actual Wasps.

    White Anglo Saxon protestants? There will be a few 😜

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  • CatograndeC Online
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    @bones said in NH club rugby:

    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    “cultural appropriation”

    Care to enlighten?

    As @Machpants said. For probably around 100 years Exeter's first team were referred to as the Chiefs with the Braves being the second team. A few years back they re-branded themselves as the Exeter Chiefs, about the same time as the Leicester Tigers (always been known as Tigers due to their striped jerseys), Sale Sharks, Newcastle Falcons etc. The supporters have taken on this branding and many wear native american headdresses a la the 1950s US western film style. Then there is the moronic chant referred to as the Tomahawk Chop.

    Wasps had decided, at board level, to question the suitability of all this in the run up to the game. The issue had been raised "by one of our supporter groups" and therefore "shouldn't be ignored". If the issue is that important why wait until the week before the game to bring it up? Why not air this at the AGM of Premiership Rugby?

    Disregarding for a moment the aspect of possible cultural appropriation, it smacks of having a go at disruption before the game. Political shit-stirring.

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  • CatograndeC Online
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    @Stargazer @Crucial

    And the two waterboys in question (actually coaches) have been charged. By the RFU rather than the judiciary I think.

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    Nice header

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/rugby-union/59453849

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  • HigginsH Offline
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    What has happened at Wasps since they have taken John Mitchell onto their coaching staff? In the first round of the Guiness European Rugby Champs last weekend they got absolutely pumped at home by Munster who were missing heaps of first choice players and had not played a game in about six weeks. Admittedly the Brad Shields red carding was something only Monsieur Poite thought was a good idea and it was a big factor but seriously they looked almost clueless in their attacking plans.

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    Seven Saffas in the starting lineup for Sale in their match kicking off against Wasps this morning, and another in the reserves.

    Sale Sharks - Wasps 26:18

    Sale Sharks - Wasps 26:18

    ENGLAND: Premiership Rugby - Round 12

    Either there aren't enough Poms to go round up Manchester way or maybe the Saffa players represent better value for money.
    We think we have it tough over here on ticket prices well to get a main stand adult ticket for this match will set you back 42 quid

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    @higgins

    It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets

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    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @higgins

    It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets

    Just watched that game you went to cato, I do enjoy getting up and watching games live over breakfast, and find I really enjoy the Gallagher Shield.
    I would think your mate would have to be considered a bloody keen supporter to take out that debenture, but kudos to him regardless!

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  • HigginsH Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Higgins
    #2394

    Look who is still running around up north, it's none other than Aleki Lutiu of 2003-6 Chiefs vintage. Doing well, obviously as a prop nowadays, to still be fronting up on the bench this morning for Ampthill as they dumped London Scottish 36 - 17 in the Pommy Div 2 Championship.

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    1st XV Squad - Ampthill Rugby
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    Aleki in action earlier this season

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    @dan54

    Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half😁

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    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @higgins

    It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets

    WTF!

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    @nepia said in NH club rugby:

    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @higgins

    It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets

    WTF!

    Now you know how they can afford high salaries for their players

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  • HigginsH Offline
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    replied to nzzp on last edited by Higgins
    #2398

    @nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.

    The Rugby Paper Team  /  Jun 21, 2019

    Who is Premiership rugby’s richest club owner?

    Who is Premiership rugby’s richest club owner?

    Latest UK rich list reveals Premiership rugby's richest club owner. News and opinion from The Rugby Paper - the UK's no.1 selling rugby title.

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    replied to Higgins on last edited by
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    @higgins said in NH club rugby:

    @nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.

    The Rugby Paper Team  /  Jun 21, 2019

    Who is Premiership rugby’s richest club owner?

    Who is Premiership rugby’s richest club owner?

    Latest UK rich list reveals Premiership rugby's richest club owner. News and opinion from The Rugby Paper - the UK's no.1 selling rugby title.

    Salary cap is now 5 million plus 2 (I think) no limit players. France is twice as much, not sure about Japan if there is one?

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  • CatograndeC Online
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    @machpants said in NH club rugby:

    @higgins said in NH club rugby:

    @nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.

    The Rugby Paper Team  /  Jun 21, 2019

    Who is Premiership rugby’s richest club owner?

    Who is Premiership rugby’s richest club owner?

    Latest UK rich list reveals Premiership rugby's richest club owner. News and opinion from The Rugby Paper - the UK's no.1 selling rugby title.

    Salary cap is now 5 million plus 2 (I think) no limit players. France is twice as much, not sure about Japan if there is one?

    Not quite as simple as that. It was more but is being cut by 1 million for next year and this sudden reduction is unsurprisingly causing problems. Also you’re allowed 1 (previously 2) marquee signings which do not count towards the cap. You get a 50% (I think) reduction if a player has come up through your academy. So the 5M cap is not necessarily the actual limit on the payroll. The changes are resulting in quite a lot of movement and I’d expect some to go to France and Japan in the near future.

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    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @dan54

    Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half😁

    Sounds great, I was meant to be in Wales/England this time 3 years ago, basically wanted to catch some club stuff, but broke my leg in Italy on the way, so am kind of hoping to head over in 3 years (covid permitting, so may want to meet up for a beer!

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    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @dan54

    Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half😁

    What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!

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  • CatograndeC Online
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    Catogrande
    replied to Dan54 on last edited by
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    @dan54

    14,100 in for a club match. West Country derby too.

    If you do get to the UK and make it this far west, a beer would definitely be on the cards.

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  • CatograndeC Online
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by Catogrande
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    @machpants said in NH club rugby:

    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @dan54

    Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half😁

    What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!

    The hospitality is quite varied with several bars serving a variety of beers, lagers and wine. There are also some mini bars selling gin and prosecco. The main beer is a local brew, Otter Bitter, to which I am very partial to. There was also some craft stuff that my future ex son-in-law liked.

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