NZ tour of India
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Taylor's knock reminiscent of the last days of Jesse Ryder
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@mariner4life said in NZ tour of India:
Taylor's knock reminiscent of the last days of Jesse Ryder
He should have hung it up after hitting the winning runs in Southampton. He was never going to top that
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@crucial said in NZ tour of India:
@donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?
I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.
As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.
Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.
Ebbs and flows of cricket. NO ONE can maintain the start he has had which makes sub par efforts look much worse than they probably are.
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@mn5 said in NZ tour of India:
@crucial said in NZ tour of India:
@donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?
I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.
As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.
Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.
Ebbs and flows of cricket. NO ONE can maintain the start he has had which makes sub par efforts look much worse than they probably are.
It is a testament to how amazing he has been
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@chris-b said in NZ tour of India:
I find it hard to believe that it's motivation - there was an obvious point to walk away if he was done (though he may not have realised he was). If it's form, they won't drop him after two bad tests. If it's eyesight - it will be pretty obvious in the nets.
I have a sinking feeling it may turn out to be eyesight, or age related slight decline (relative decline) in hand-eye reflexes like late career Ponting.
His brief innings last night looked like a man slightly panicky that he couldn't pick up the ball quickly enough, and was reaching out/swishing away to find it, desperate to get bat onto ball...
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@donsteppa I just had a look on Cricinfo and seems like Rossco - prior to this series - hadn't had an innings in the middle since the WTC Final. Nothing more than club cricket, anyway.
So he might also have been a guy with no form having a swipe to try to clear the vultures around the bat and hoping to get a couple out of the middle to find his form.
Why hasn't he played any cricket?
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@chris-b said in NZ tour of India:
Why hasn't he played any cricket?
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@godder said in NZ tour of India:
@booboo said in NZ tour of India:
So, umm ...
At least we beat 26.
What is the biggest ever margin by runs?
Shit... we're not even going to make the top 10.
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I don't follow NZ domestic cricket apart from reading the odd news article and various threads on here, but are there seriously no options floating around apart from Mitchell? I haven't seen anything to suggest he is a proper long term test batting option. He looks like an all-rounder when he bats, except he is not much of a bowler I know it's 'only' Bangles...
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The four day comp is still only in the very early stages this year, the only other names that come to mind for me are Finn Allen (more on his short form record), and Glenn Phillips. A look back at last year's batting records suggests a few new names, though not many that I know much about... https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=13761;type=tournament
Colin de Grandhomme's domestic form hasn't been great from the bits and pieces I've seen at Bay Oval, and on the stats.
Edit: posted the wrong link - see the post further down
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@donsteppa What's not very encouraging about that list is the lack of any really big scores. To play test cricket as a batsman, I reckon you need to be capable of scoring a double century.
You've got Blundell making 150, Cooper making 146* and Nicholls making 126* (plus making 2 centuries). The other guy who made two centuries is McClure - but, his top score is 107.
Across the stats, you'd say Nicholls was the outstanding batsman of the season, which sets a pretty known benchmark.
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@crazy-horse said in NZ tour of India:
I don't follow NZ domestic cricket apart from reading the odd news article and various threads on here, but are there seriously no options floating around apart from Mitchell? I haven't seen anything to suggest he is a proper long term test batting option. He looks like an all-rounder when he bats, except he is not much of a bowler I know it's 'only' Bangles...
Not really, this is NZ after all - even when we have 8-10 good batting options, we're only a few injuries/retirements/form slumps away from disaster.
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Oops - brain explosion. It would have helped if I'd linked to the 2020/21 Plunket Shield instead of the Ford Trophy!
I think I had that in mind given there was supposed to be a game (now washed out) starting today...
Plunket Shield, 2020/21 batting most runs career Records | ESPNcricinfo
Find Plunket Shield, 2020/21 batting most runs career records and stats on ESPNcricinfo. Check batting most runs career stats of Plunket Shield, 2020/21.
Some similar names in the mix
Here's the current 2021-22 season link, from between 2 -4 games played: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=14226;type=tournament
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@crazy-horse said in NZ tour of India:
I don't follow NZ domestic cricket apart from reading the odd news article and various threads on here, but are there seriously no options floating around apart from Mitchell? I haven't seen anything to suggest he is a proper long term test batting option. He looks like an all-rounder when he bats, except he is not much of a bowler I know it's 'only' Bangles...
I think injuries to KW and Conway and some shite form from Rossco and Nicholls has exposed us somewhat.
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There aren't any hidden batting gems out there in the FC ranks.
If you take Kyle Jamieson as the the youngest regular member of the blackcaps and assess those younger than him on the FC scene - who are look as could be potentially really good international cricketers. You get about 6. (of which 4 in my list are batsmen)
R Ravindra
F Allen
G Phillips
N Smith
B Sears
(also M Chapman, who's about the same age as Jamieson).All but Nathan Smith have had a taste of blackcaps now.
If the discussion is how close do we have to a Ross Taylor level replacement? Ravindra should be capable of being a 40+ averaging batsman. So, yes, we do. But, nothing is a given.
Finn Allen looks like being a more extreme version of Martin Guptill. More promising even than him at white ball, but his red-ball is quite concerning already for a guy who is 22 already.
