NZ tour of India
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@donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?
I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.
As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.
Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.
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@crucial said in NZ tour of India:
As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.
I was thinking more for Bangladesh at Bay Oval, though for future sub-continent matches it will be interesting to see who a second frontline spinner could be. I've always hoped Ish Sodhi could become more consistent in the longer form of the game, but that still seems to be a way off.
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@donsteppa would be a little concerned with Kyle at 7 when Ravindra is batting as high as 2 or 3. Would love to see Ravindra continue to build experience in the middle order, but that may well be a luxury we can’t afford in the next year or so.
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@donsteppa I think they'll have a conversation with Rossco after this series - but, they need to work out if it's form, motivation or physical decline (e.g. eyesight).
I find it hard to believe that it's motivation - there was an obvious point to walk away if he was done (though he may not have realised he was). If it's form, they won't drop him after two bad tests. If it's eyesight - it will be pretty obvious in the nets.
However, if we are without him - at home - I'd go:
Latham
Conway
Young
Nicholls
Mitchell
Blundell
Ravindra
Jamieson
Southee
Wagner
BoultWhich is a bit tough on Ajaz, who is one of the first names on the teamsheet if we're playing in Asia - but, there's been no point in playing spinners in NZ for a number of years.
If Rossco plays then one of Mitch or Ravindra doesn't (probably RR) - if Kane plays, as well - neither does.
Interesting question - whether Kane shifts down to 4 when Rossco departs. I think he probably does.
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Taylor's knock reminiscent of the last days of Jesse Ryder
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@mariner4life said in NZ tour of India:
Taylor's knock reminiscent of the last days of Jesse Ryder
He should have hung it up after hitting the winning runs in Southampton. He was never going to top that
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@crucial said in NZ tour of India:
@donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?
I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.
As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.
Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.
Ebbs and flows of cricket. NO ONE can maintain the start he has had which makes sub par efforts look much worse than they probably are.
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@mn5 said in NZ tour of India:
@crucial said in NZ tour of India:
@donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?
I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.
As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.
Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.
Ebbs and flows of cricket. NO ONE can maintain the start he has had which makes sub par efforts look much worse than they probably are.
It is a testament to how amazing he has been
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@chris-b said in NZ tour of India:
I find it hard to believe that it's motivation - there was an obvious point to walk away if he was done (though he may not have realised he was). If it's form, they won't drop him after two bad tests. If it's eyesight - it will be pretty obvious in the nets.
I have a sinking feeling it may turn out to be eyesight, or age related slight decline (relative decline) in hand-eye reflexes like late career Ponting.
His brief innings last night looked like a man slightly panicky that he couldn't pick up the ball quickly enough, and was reaching out/swishing away to find it, desperate to get bat onto ball...
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@donsteppa I just had a look on Cricinfo and seems like Rossco - prior to this series - hadn't had an innings in the middle since the WTC Final. Nothing more than club cricket, anyway.
So he might also have been a guy with no form having a swipe to try to clear the vultures around the bat and hoping to get a couple out of the middle to find his form.
Why hasn't he played any cricket?
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@chris-b said in NZ tour of India:
Why hasn't he played any cricket?
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@godder said in NZ tour of India:
@booboo said in NZ tour of India:
So, umm ...
At least we beat 26.
What is the biggest ever margin by runs?
Shit... we're not even going to make the top 10.
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I don't follow NZ domestic cricket apart from reading the odd news article and various threads on here, but are there seriously no options floating around apart from Mitchell? I haven't seen anything to suggest he is a proper long term test batting option. He looks like an all-rounder when he bats, except he is not much of a bowler I know it's 'only' Bangles...
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The four day comp is still only in the very early stages this year, the only other names that come to mind for me are Finn Allen (more on his short form record), and Glenn Phillips. A look back at last year's batting records suggests a few new names, though not many that I know much about... https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=13761;type=tournament
Colin de Grandhomme's domestic form hasn't been great from the bits and pieces I've seen at Bay Oval, and on the stats.
Edit: posted the wrong link - see the post further down
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@donsteppa What's not very encouraging about that list is the lack of any really big scores. To play test cricket as a batsman, I reckon you need to be capable of scoring a double century.
You've got Blundell making 150, Cooper making 146* and Nicholls making 126* (plus making 2 centuries). The other guy who made two centuries is McClure - but, his top score is 107.
Across the stats, you'd say Nicholls was the outstanding batsman of the season, which sets a pretty known benchmark.
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@crazy-horse said in NZ tour of India:
I don't follow NZ domestic cricket apart from reading the odd news article and various threads on here, but are there seriously no options floating around apart from Mitchell? I haven't seen anything to suggest he is a proper long term test batting option. He looks like an all-rounder when he bats, except he is not much of a bowler I know it's 'only' Bangles...
Not really, this is NZ after all - even when we have 8-10 good batting options, we're only a few injuries/retirements/form slumps away from disaster.
