World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules
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@crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
@machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
@bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?
Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!
Why’s that?
UK clubs play matches on International Day
There wasn’t a clash previously
Now a former NZ player who now qualifies for Tonga for example is not available to play for his club
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@mikethesnow said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
@crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
@machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
@bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?
Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!
Why’s that?
UK clubs play matches on International Day
There wasn’t a clash previously
Now a former NZ player who now qualifies for Tonga for example is not available to play for his club
Cheers. Dumb clubs then, playing during the window.
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@crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
TV headlines seem to think that you can only move to tier 2 countries but there’s nothing in that WR release that says that is the case.
We may well find that some AB discards end up in 6N squads through grandparents.The way things are going we may find some 6N discards in AB squads through grandparents.
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But will it stop the French clubs 'persuading' PI players to make themselves unavailable for internationals like they have done previously.
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@machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
@crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
Does this mean we can get Ben Teo and Brad Shields back?
Don’t see much advantage in that.And sixty odd percent of the Tongan and Samoan squads
This might have the perverse effect of having a lot of Bunce, Bachop, Vidiri types going the other way
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@majorrage said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
You can now play for the country of your birth, you parents or grandparents birth if you've played for another country after 3 year stand down.
Right now Eddie Jones is checking where George Bridge's grandparents were born - hopefully.
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@victor-meldrew said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
@majorrage said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
You can now play for the country of your birth, you parents or grandparents birth if you've played for another country after 3 year stand down.
Right now Eddie Jones is checking where George Bridge's grandparents were born - hopefully.
Well he already meets the criteria of not playing any rugby for the last three years.
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Big win for the PI unions, and rightly so IMO. Anything that raises the standards of teams is good for the health of the sport.
Interesting last line where a committee can approve seperate from the links, I assume that's for edge cases but could be abused.
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@daffy-jaffy said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
But will it stop the French clubs 'persuading' PI players to make themselves unavailable for internationals like they have done previously.
True but that mostly affects 'bubbling under' type players who are desperate to keep their jobs. The better the player is, the more power they have.
Pat Lam faces the possibility of seeing Piutau, Luatua, Afoa,Nathan Hughes, Leiua, and Radarada all unavailable in the window. That's a big chunk of the A team. Which of them has the most power with contract renewals coming up?
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I think stretching it out to a grandparent is too far.
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@crazy-horse said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
I think stretching it out to a grandparent is too far.
In western terms I generally agree (as in 'my granny was born in Scotland and moved to NZ as a child), but in the PI diaspora I think it is fair enough. The country ties are very strong.
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@crazy-horse said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
I think stretching it out to a grandparent is too far.
I agree, although it depends on migration trends how long the PI nations (and other nations) will be able to benefit from this new rule. If fewer and fewer people migrate from the Islands to NZ (and Oz or other countries), in three generations, fewer and fewer players will have a PI born grandparent.
For example, a son of Caleb Clarke could still make use of this new rule, because Eroni Clarke was born in Samoa, but a grandson of Caleb cannot.
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@crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
@crazy-horse said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:
I think stretching it out to a grandparent is too far.
In western terms I generally agree (as in 'my granny was born in Scotland and moved to NZ as a child), but in the PI diaspora I think it is fair enough. The country ties are very strong.
You may have a point - I admit I don't have the clearest understanding of the PI way of life.
