Wales v Fiji
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The maul tries revealed clearly where the problem with mauling currently lies: Both teams might have the same amount of players, contesting with similar power, but one team can shift the point of contact and remove defending players from the contest, who have no chance in hell of getting back and defending with the same force again.
The kick and chase try: How lazy was the Fijian FN (or was it SH?)? Well done by the Welsh winger, though. Some would have been seething if an AB scored that, saying it was knocked on...
Liam Williams is still an ugly ghoul.
P.S: red card totally deserved, what an idiotic cnt (talking about Liam Williams here)
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@mikethesnow said in Wales v Fiji:
@arhs said in Wales v Fiji:
Our game is a mess. No 20 minute red card makes for farces like that.
Thinking no one would see his dirty, moronic action is the mess.
Physician heal thyself.
Yeah - but, why does everyone who watches the game and supports the team have to pay the price?
For the defence, I call Sam Warburton.
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@bones It should, but it doesn't seem to work.
I don't know what the "GDP" of a big test match is, but probably $20 million - and I've seen far too many spectacles ruined by permanent red cards.
I think a 20 minute red and a long suspension serves the same purpose, without totally fucking the game for everyone.
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@chris-b said in Wales v Fiji:
@bones I don't - but, there would be less games ruined for the spectators.
Again you don't know that. Maybe everyone would start offending more, so we'd see numerous red cards....maybe they'd start attacking spectators.
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@bones I don't know that - but nor do you.
You'd need to have every individuals' indifference curve in relation to red card penalties at every instant, which is a known impossibility.
So we assume that everyone is rational and no-one wants to do things that severely disadvantage themselves and their team.
That evidently doesn't always hold true either - but, I don't see how juggling penalties is likely to make a lot of difference to individual players, so we might as well at least do things of obvious benefit to the spectators.
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@chris-b said in Wales v Fiji:
@bones I don't know that - but nor do you.
You'd need to have every individuals' indifference curve in relation to red card penalties at every instant, which is a known impossibility.
So we assume that everyone is rational and no-one wants to do things that severely disadvantage themselves and their team.
That evidently doesn't always hold true either - but, I don't see how juggling penalties is likely to make a lot of difference to individual players, so we might as well at least do things of obvious benefit to the spectators.
\I'm not getting attacked by a player just because you want to change things on a whim.
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@bones said in Wales v Fiji:
@chris-b said in Wales v Fiji:
@bones I don't know that - but nor do you.
You'd need to have every individuals' indifference curve in relation to red card penalties at every instant, which is a known impossibility.
So we assume that everyone is rational and no-one wants to do things that severely disadvantage themselves and their team.
That evidently doesn't always hold true either - but, I don't see how juggling penalties is likely to make a lot of difference to individual players, so we might as well at least do things of obvious benefit to the spectators.
\I'm not getting attacked by a player just because you want to change things on a whim.
A whim???
That is firmly based on the Economic Theory of Choice!!!
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@machpants said in Wales v Fiji:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Fiji:
Great performance from Fiji, apart from the deserved red card.
The dumbest Welsh effort I can remember since Fiji '07. The score flattered us a lot, that was a shambolic display. We are so poorly coached.
Welcome to the club, not every kiwi coach is a gem!
Oh we're well aware, we've been road testing them for you for about 24 years now
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@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Fiji:
@machpants said in Wales v Fiji:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Fiji:
Great performance from Fiji, apart from the deserved red card.
The dumbest Welsh effort I can remember since Fiji '07. The score flattered us a lot, that was a shambolic display. We are so poorly coached.
Welcome to the club, not every kiwi coach is a gem!
Oh we're well aware, we've been road testing them for you for about 24 years now
If you are happy to take Foster then, to carry on the legend, I'm sure someone will help drive him to the airport for you.
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@nostrildamus said in Wales v Fiji:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Fiji:
@machpants said in Wales v Fiji:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Fiji:
Great performance from Fiji, apart from the deserved red card.
The dumbest Welsh effort I can remember since Fiji '07. The score flattered us a lot, that was a shambolic display. We are so poorly coached.
Welcome to the club, not every kiwi coach is a gem!
Oh we're well aware, we've been road testing them for you for about 24 years now
If you are happy to take Foster then, to carry on the legend, I'm sure someone will help drive him to the airport for you.
Seems like a fair trade. Should we tell Pivac to bring Jonathan Humphreys with him too?
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@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in Wales v Fiji:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Fiji:
@machpants said in Wales v Fiji:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Fiji:
Great performance from Fiji, apart from the deserved red card.
The dumbest Welsh effort I can remember since Fiji '07. The score flattered us a lot, that was a shambolic display. We are so poorly coached.
Welcome to the club, not every kiwi coach is a gem!
Oh we're well aware, we've been road testing them for you for about 24 years now
If you are happy to take Foster then, to carry on the legend, I'm sure someone will help drive him to the airport for you.
Seems like a fair trade. Should we tell Pivac to bring Jonathan Humphreys with him too?
Oh hang on, you want us to take Pivac back? Ok if he goes back to being a copper on the North Shore. NB his coaching record arguably outshines Foster's by some distance.
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So they're not using 20 minute red card? I was confused.
Fiji didn't lose because of cards. They had fuck all possession and gave it up too easily when they managed to grab the pill. A few critical lineout throws lost in good position didn't help.
That put them in bad positions where cards are going to come.
But that red card. Fucking hell that was just idiocy.
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@nta said in Wales v Fiji:
But that red card. Fucking hell that was just idiocy.
Kept Pivac in a job
Otherwise it would have been straight to the car park a la Nantes
