Scotland v Australia 2021
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@crucial said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@nta said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
And it was a shit cleanout by Alaalatoa, too - zero effect. Get there and retain your balance, eyes up, to protect the ball.
Tough call only in that many refs have let this 'style' of play go for years. No attempt to be doing anything at the tackle except insert a body in there and go to ground. It's not a clear out. It's no different to tackling a player on the ground. You are actually only meant to bind onto a player on their feet anyway.
In my opinion it is a penalty anyway (should be at almost every ruck) but the arm to the head was just extra clumsiness.IMO the reason this is never ruled on is that WR want to encourage players to the tackle area to create space elsewhere but then want quick contests for the ball to keep play moving.
Refs have been letting this type of cleanout go for a while now.
The first guy comes in to roll the tackle off to allow the carrier to place the ball cleanly. The cleaner does go off his feet almost everytime, but without it the attack would be stymied with tackler accidently making their way on to the wrong side everytime.
But in this case the tackler was already clear of the ball (so its like those cases where the hackler steps back and it looks like the cleaner dived in now that there is nothing ruck against).
I'm fine with a penalty in this particular case because AAA was so out of control of the clear out that he was unable to avoid contact.
A yellow is stupid though, as the very same thing goes unpunished a hundred times a game.
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@sidbarret said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
A yellow is stupid though, as the very same thing goes unpunished a hundred times a game.
Any time the TMO gets involved, particularly with a home broadcaster picking replays, you're in trouble.
Solution: spin around, have a stab at converting through droppie and gtfo
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@majorrage said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@majorrage said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
Poite was ok today with letting it flow but he did make a few mistakes, which pretty much so all went Scotland’s way.
> Really enjoyed it tho, Scotland backline is a joy to watch.
There’s a sentence I never thought I’d see written down in my lifetime
Tell me about it. Finn Russel has a similarity to Carter in that he looks like he has so much time on the ball. The outside backs are all very quick too and excellent and finding space to run into.
Really good team to watch.
The biggest difference between Russell and Carter isn't on their best days, it's on their worst.
Both fantastic to watch when they're going well, but I don't remember Carter ever having a stinker of a game - "a bit quiet today" was about as bad as he got from my recollection
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Scotland head coach Gregor Townsend told Amazon Prime: "In the coaching box, we were a bit emotional at the end. It wasn't the best of games, but the resolve the players showed and the impact the bench made was tremendous.
"At half-time we knew we hadn't played our best rugby, but there was a fire about us in that second half which was great to see, and there was an edge to our set-piece."
Sums it up perfectly. With the fans back in full stadiums, there is a fire about Scottish (and Irish Rugby and English Rugby) and it is up to the sides that play them to respond to that fire.
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@sparky said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
Scotland head coach Gregor Townsend told Amazon Prime: "In the coaching box, we were a bit emotional at the end. It wasn't the best of games, but the resolve the players showed and the impact the bench made was tremendous.
"At half-time we knew we hadn't played our best rugby, but there was a fire about us in that second half which was great to see, and there was an edge to our set-piece."
Sums it up perfectly. With the fans back in full stadiums, there is a fire about Scottish (and Irish Rugby and English Rugby) and it is up to the sides that play them to respond to that fire.
The Scots have been plucky losers most of my Rugby watching life. It would be nice if they could just take it one step further and be a genuinely strong side like they were in 1990 and again in 1999.
The signs are there with a typically combative backrow and two genuinely world class backs in Russell and Hogg.
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@gibbon-rib said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@nta said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
Overall, as I suspected, we were dumb as fuck at crucial points.
Early offload/flick from Ikitau when we turned them over inside their quarter. Dumb brain from Wright continually to offset his good stuff.
JOC missing touch at the end. In the same position, the Boks would kick to touch - even for 15m - get a maul penalty.
Then kick to touch again, and get a maul penalty. Kick a goal. That's what we're missing in this game.
Yup that was pretty much how I saw it too. Frustrating to watch. That Ikitau blind offload when the Scots were at 6s and 7s had me head-butting the table
I'll see you and raise you Folau Faingaa attempting a double cut-out pass after we win a turnover in midfield with nobody in front of us.
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@stodders said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 Scotland have a decent front row too and some decent outside backs. Price too is a good scrum half who injects speed into our play. The recruitment of South Africans has certainly benefited the team.
The Van Der Merwe clan provided a good big fast winger too.
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@stodders said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 Scotland have a decent front row too and some decent outside backs. Price too is a good scrum half who injects speed into our play. The recruitment of South Africans has certainly benefited the team.
Six Nations is going to be something else this season. Crowds back, and should be seriously competitive. Can't wait.
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@gibbon-rib said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@stodders said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 Scotland have a decent front row too and some decent outside backs. Price too is a good scrum half who injects speed into our play. The recruitment of South Africans has certainly benefited the team.
Six Nations is going to be something else this season. Crowds back, and should be seriously competitive. Can't wait.
Definitely. Even Italy have gone from utter shit to pretty shit. They’ll surprise a couple of teams.
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@mn5 said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@gibbon-rib said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@stodders said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 Scotland have a decent front row too and some decent outside backs. Price too is a good scrum half who injects speed into our play. The recruitment of South Africans has certainly benefited the team.
Six Nations is going to be something else this season. Crowds back, and should be seriously competitive. Can't wait.
Definitely. Even Italy have gone from utter shit to pretty shit. They’ll surprise a couple of teams.
What, by getting within 20 points instead of 30 and 40?
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@act-crusader said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@gibbon-rib said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@stodders said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 Scotland have a decent front row too and some decent outside backs. Price too is a good scrum half who injects speed into our play. The recruitment of South Africans has certainly benefited the team.
Six Nations is going to be something else this season. Crowds back, and should be seriously competitive. Can't wait.
Definitely. Even Italy have gone from utter shit to pretty shit. They’ll surprise a couple of teams.
What, by getting within 20 points instead of 30 and 40?
You watch... they'll tip over France 😉
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@act-crusader said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@gibbon-rib said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@stodders said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@mn5 Scotland have a decent front row too and some decent outside backs. Price too is a good scrum half who injects speed into our play. The recruitment of South Africans has certainly benefited the team.
Six Nations is going to be something else this season. Crowds back, and should be seriously competitive. Can't wait.
Definitely. Even Italy have gone from utter shit to pretty shit. They’ll surprise a couple of teams.
What, by getting within 20 points instead of 30 and 40?
Steady on. Multiples of two. Those 40 point losses will become 38 and so on.
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I just checked the 6N odds out of interest. Clearly the bookies / betting public don't think this is a new dawn for the Scots
France 48/29
England 5/2
Ireland 9/2
Wales 6/1
Scotland 12/1
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@gibbon-rib said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
I just checked the 6N odds out of interest. Clearly the bookies / betting public don't think this is a new dawn for the Scots
France 48/29
England 5/2
Ireland 9/2
Wales 6/1
Scotland 12/1
Italy 1000/112 is better than 1000 though
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@mn5 said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
@gibbon-rib said in Scotland v Australia 2021:
I just checked the 6N odds out of interest. Clearly the bookies / betting public don't think this is a new dawn for the Scots
France 48/29
England 5/2
Ireland 9/2
Wales 6/1
Scotland 12/1
Italy 1000/112 is better than 1000 though
True. And probably better value too.
