Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour
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@gt12 well, I'd be surprised to see McKenzie again on tour unless covering 10. Ennor won't play again. Vaa'i will be lucky too. Barrett is ahead of Mo'unga for me.
Tupaea was better in second half. AB props and hookers did well.
Put Savea, Retallick, Papali'i, Whitelock, ALB, J Barrett, Rieko Ioane back in and the team gets a step up in purpose and accuracy.
Will be interesting to see if Weber is out for long.
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@sparky several ppl have said it on here...he gets dominated at test level. He can be the 10/15/wing cover on the bench or in a WC squad when numbers are tight, but he is a liability at test level when accuracy is needed and calm heads are required.
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@victor-meldrew not many teams can field a 7 as a passenger (he was better in 2nd half but didn't control his team well in 1st because he was concentrating too much on his own job) to get his fitness back up and still post a 47-9 away win 😉
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Ennor is an AB?
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@nostrildamus concerning lack of discipline in 1st half and first part of 2nd half. Changed when some of the senior heads came on. Experience will be good for some of the young guns
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@stodders said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
@nostrildamus concerning lack of discipline in 1st half and first part of 2nd half. Changed when some of the senior heads came on. Experience will be good for some of the young guns
Yes I think so. If they have to pick Ennor though I hope it is on the wing.
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Discipline is the biggest issue this year with ABs. Cut the penalty count down in last 2 games and it will go some way to improving the performance.
Give this many penalties away against Ireland, with their lineout and forward pack, and it will be a long day in Dublin.
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@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
3-2-1s
3 Coles. Scored 2. Looked the best forward on the field
2 Christie. Didn't fuck up lots.- Bridge. Didn't fuck up much at all.
Everyone else sucks
Sotutu had a couple of errors but pinched a line out, got a nice try and consistently made the gain line.
He played well
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@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
This ref is off his head
But
We're shit. We don't know how to beat them. Italy.
Mounga is fucking rubbish by the way. He, DMac and Barrett are so fucking ordinary. We lack physical specimens in the back line.
We need a better plan to use these limited players
Exactly we are playing a 2012 game plan with 1999 players - fucking horrible all around
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@junior not quite fair. I thought both the initial front row and sub props went ok. Christie had a decent game for someone so green. Cane got some needed game time.
What did you really expect though? Novice locking combo, a back row that had never played together (with a 7 returning from long term injury) an early disruption in the halves, a centre combo who have never played together with v few caps between them.
Mo'unga didn't go v well today, but that was more to do with players dropping the ball 2 or 3 phases in as the line was being bent. I expected to see him kicking behind the rush more to at least put doubt in the Italian defensive line. No kicking just gave the Italians licence to rush with impunity.
Of all the players on the pitch, McKenzie was the biggest disappointment. He's an experienced player now, yet his ability to make poor decisions was top notch today.
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@stodders said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew not many teams can field a 7 as a passenger (he was better in 2nd half but didn't control his team well in 1st because he was concentrating too much on his own job) to get his fitness back up and still post a 47-9 away win 😉
Not disagreeing, but I'd want a fit Sam Cane in my team any day. Today was progress.
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@victor-meldrew of course, if fit. I'm not sure working your way back to fitness in the AB setup is right though. ABs know what they get from Cane. I think it is a missed opportunity to look at someone else, especially with the leadership group of Whitelock/Retallick/Savea/Coles in the pack.
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@stodders said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
several ppl have said it on here...he gets dominated at test level.
Up until he was injured he was really solid at 15 and certainly wasn't dominated by the NH sides in 2018. But at times he looks a shadow of the player he was pre-injury.
