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    bobily
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="579263" data-time="1463103793">
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    <p>Which makes selecting only 2 hookers more of a risk.  In the RWC final the ABs had 14 lineout feeds and only 3 scrum feeds (8 scrums in total).  I think they'll choose 6 props and 3 hookers to be safe.  I never thought that B Franks was actually that good but Cron obviously rated him.  He certainly wasn't as good a scrummager as Loe or even Dowd on both sides of the scrum.</p>
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    <p>It does, but it is a risk that the selectors have been willing to take before. There have been times when Mealamu and Hore were the only hookers taken overseas, and there have also been times where only Mealamu and Coles were taken overseas. I believe in the past, they said that if things went to crap, they'd have Woodcock throwing in and one of the tighthead props would play hooker.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>In my opinion, the issue with a lack of a third tighthead prop option is one to do with player safety, and that according to the rules of the game, they need a bench option who can play there (even if they don't get on the field).</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>With hooker, I imagine Reg Goodes would be safe enough playing there to take the risk, given his previous experience there. His lineout throwing could need a bit of work (though he's done it before) but it'd still require two hookers to go down in a short time span for it to be an issue (one would have to go down shortly before the game, the other in the middle of the game). Otherwise, you could just call James Parsons or Hika Elliot in at short notice.</p>

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    SammyC
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    <p>Both Crockett and Moody have played minutes at tighthead for Canterbury in the NPC.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I think we could cover an emergency if we had to with those 2.</p>

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    Bones
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579287" data-time="1463110851"><p>People on here said that he lacked the little extras to ever get picked for the ABs, same with Jeremy Thrush but they both did. Craig Clarke must be pissed off based on that......</p></blockquote>
    "People on here"?

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    SammyC
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    <p>And I don't think Hames is anywhere near the 17 with those 2 in the squad.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Not until he starts a few games for the Chiefs</p>

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    MN5
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="579296" data-time="1463112586">
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    <p>"People on here"?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Oh sorry, THE FERN.......</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Go back to sleep, I don't want you getting grumpy later on in the day.</p>

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    Bones
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579299" data-time="1463112987"><p>Oh sorry, THE FERN.......<br><br>
    Go back to sleep, I don't want you getting grumpy later on in the day.</p></blockquote>
    I don't recall that being said about Donnelly...

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    bobily
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="579294" data-time="1463112514">
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    <p>Both Crockett and Moody have played minutes at tighthead for Canterbury in the NPC.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I think we could cover an emergency if we had to with those 2.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Personally, I'd probably feel more comfortable with Faumuina being the loosehead cover (with another tighthead in the squad) than Crockett/Moody being the tighthead cover a (particularly once Laulala is back).</p>

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    MN5
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="579302" data-time="1463113801">
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    <p>I don't recall that being said about Donnelly...</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Red Beard, Bart and guys like that were all over it. Said he lacked the "extras" that were needed that Williams, Boric etc had.</p>

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    SammyC
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bobily" data-cid="579303" data-time="1463113891">
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    <p>Personally, I'd probably feel more comfortable with Faumuina being the loosehead cover (with another tighthead in the squad) than Crockett/Moody being the tighthead cover a (particularly once Laulala is back).</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Agree, was really responding to the comment that we needed 6 props. I think 5 in the squad is adequate.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'd only look to use either of those guys in an emergency</p>

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    Bones
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    Nah.

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  • MN5M Online
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    MN5
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="579305" data-time="1463114139">
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    <p>Nah.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Yeah nah Yeah bro. It's true. They were both so ashamed they got something wrong on the interweb that they left in disgrace, never to be heard from again.</p>

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    Tim
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    <p>Red Beard loved Donnelly.</p>

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    Bones
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="579311" data-time="1463115274"><p>Red Beard loved Donnelly.</p></blockquote>
    I thought Bart did too. I don't recall any talk about him lacking "those little extras". <br><br>
    MN5 did you mean " People in my head"?

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    MN5
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="579312" data-time="1463116071">
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    <p>I thought Bart did too. I don't recall any talk about him lacking "those little extras".<br><br>
    MN5 did you mean " People in my head"?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>No. All you ferners are real to me.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'll text them both and ask if they remember and have a full report to you by Monday.</p>

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    Bones
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    Wow cool.

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    taniwharugby
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    <p>those 2 woulda loved the old school Donnelly! </p>

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    MN5
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="579324" data-time="1463120231">
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    <p>those 2 woulda loved the old school Donnelly! </p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>You're talking about them like they're dead. All they did was get lives and leave the fern.</p>

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    Tim
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    <p>That's no way to live.</p>

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    taniwharugby
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579327" data-time="1463122665">
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    <p>You're talking about them like they're dead. All they did was get lives and leave the fern.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>They are dead to me!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Not to mention form a guy using peoples opinions that arent here to back them up (or deny)</p>

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    MN5
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="579330" data-time="1463123096">
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    <p>They are dead to me!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Not to mention form a guy using peoples opinions that arent here to back them up (or deny)</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I mentioned it in passing. You douches are making a thing of it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I spoke to RB on the phone the other day. He didn't say to say hi to anyone, maybe he really has moved on. It's tough cos now we just have to judge who is a good prop by guesswork.</p>

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