All Blacks vs Pumas II
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.
He might go better at seven, but at 6 he’s behind Akira and Jacobson by a long way.
At Seven, a few there too.
Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.
That's why I said squad option.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Argies are good at spoiling not much else.
I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.
Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Argies are good at spoiling not much else.
I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.
Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them
Been a great warm up for the boks.
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@nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.
Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Argies are good at spoiling not much else.
I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.
Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them
I know it’s somewhat difficult to compare games but from an armchair view, Argentina played with more pace and endeavour than the Boks did.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.
Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.
Could tell him to picture the opposition wearing dresses? Might end up with a red card though.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.
Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.
Could tell him to picture the opposition wearing dresses? Might end up with a red card though.
Mitigating circumstances, let off with a warning.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.
Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.
Five missed tackles and four penalties would lose us a game against better opposition.
He was busy, but not good.
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Christie’s actual pass seems a lot more swifter and crisp than TJ’s but his inexperience to manage the play showed tonight. The time and space is less and he seems to fluff around at the back too often.
Early days though.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Christie’s actual pass seems a lot more swifter and crisp than TJ’s but his inexperience to manage the play showed tonight. The time and space is less and he seems to fluff around at the back too often.
Early days though.
Yeah, when he was getting the pass away, there was a noticeable difference. But the rest...
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.
Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.
Five missed tackles and four penalties would lose us a game against better opposition.
He was busy, but not good.
And whilst @Stargazer is right about those other stats (from ESPN, I assume), the difference between his positive ones (3 offloads versus 2 to the next three people, 12 tackles made versus 10 to the next three pkayers) and his negatives (5 missed versus 2 for next person and 4 penalties versus 1 for the next) mean that his inaccuracy is a big work on.
I think he has a big future, but @Kirwan has a good point here, those positives don't outweigh the negatives.
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@frank said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.
Blackadder doesn't knock out teeth as well as Frizell.
Prove it
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@frank said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.
Blackadder doesn't knock out teeth as well as Frizell.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Too soon?
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Just been over the comments after watching the game. All I can say is that provincialism is alive and well!