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    @machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..

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    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..

    Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.

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    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..

    Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.

    He had an excellent game vs the Highlanders. One of the best games by a winger in SR.

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    Well if he can get back into form, that'd be great!

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300409115/all-blacks-vs-argentina-damian-mckenzie-vows-to-play-my-game-as-he-shifts-to-no-10

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    @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300409115/all-blacks-vs-argentina-damian-mckenzie-vows-to-play-my-game-as-he-shifts-to-no-10

    Well, fuck.

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    @act-crusader yikes

    I suggest ALB is probably our first choice 12, and Goodhue our first choice 13 ... But not sure those who count see it that way

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    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..

    Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.

    Yeah, whenever I was playing shit it was because of injury too.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @act-crusader yikes

    I suggest ALB is probably our first choice 12, and Goodhue our first choice 13 ... But not sure those who count see it that way

    Problem being, Goodhue has been a shell of his former self, very meh. Must be a misdiagnosed injury.

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    @booboo he’s not even on the radar at the moment. To me he would need to prove that he’s better than Havilli at second five because I don’t see him as a Center. I’d rather have ALB and Reiko at center. He is too slow for center.

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    @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..

    Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.

    Yeah, whenever I was playing shit it was because of injury too.

    Righto. So leg injuries don't affect form for wingers anymore? If you were paying more attention, you'd have seen a trainer shadowing him for some of the games trying to keep him out there.

    And him limping off.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @act-crusader yikes

    I suggest ALB is probably our first choice 12, and Goodhue our first choice 13 ... But not sure those who count see it that way

    I always reckon ALB is a better 13 than Goodhue, and Havili is now best 12 we got. I actually tjink Tupaea will put a bit of pressure on as a 12 too.

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    @dan54 said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @act-crusader yikes

    I suggest ALB is probably our first choice 12, and Goodhue our first choice 13 ... But not sure those who count see it that way

    I always reckon ALB is a better 13 than Goodhue, and Havili is now best 12 we got. I actually tjink Tupaea will put a bit of pressure on as a 12 too.

    Tupaea had a long way to go, long long way. I don't rate him at all. Goodhue has gone backwards at a rate of knots, really it's havili, ALB, and Reiko.... Daylight

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    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..

    Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.

    Yeah, whenever I was playing shit it was because of injury too.

    Righto. So leg injuries don't affect form for wingers anymore? If you were paying more attention, you'd have seen a trainer shadowing him for some of the games trying to keep him out there.

    And him limping off.

    And playing pretty shit. I saw that bit. Why does it matter if it's because of injury?

    The only thing that matters is how he's playing - so now he's not injured he can prove he's better than in SR this year.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @act-crusader yikes

    I suggest ALB is probably our first choice 12, and Goodhue our first choice 13 ... But not sure those who count see it that way

    I reckon that's not too far away - spot on in 2019 IMO.

    But, we haven't seen much of Jack at centre in the past couple of years and he's down my list at second five. Pretty hard to keep him ahead of ALB at centre right now, because he's not got recent runs on the board.

    So, we will see when he comes back and surely the Crusaders will mainly pair him with Havili at 2nd five.

    I mainly agree with ACTs rankings - except 14, which we already discussed. 🙂

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    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..

    Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.

    Yeah, whenever I was playing shit it was because of injury too.

    Righto. So leg injuries don't affect form for wingers anymore? If you were paying more attention, you'd have seen a trainer shadowing him for some of the games trying to keep him out there.

    And him limping off.

    Jimmy Connors' autobiography "The Outsider" is a very entertaining read. I recommend it.

    I'll chuck this quote into the mix (and duck)... 🙂

    Pancho (Segura, his coach) and I had a good relationship from the very beginning.

    "All I ask," Pancho said, "Is that you believe in yourself. No negative thoughts. No excuses. Lose like a man and win like a man. If you're injured, don't play; if you play, you're not injured. Always give 100 percent and I'll be happy."

    These words stuck with me throughout my career.

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    @chris-b Rieko drop in form? Injured. Akira drop in form? Injured. Tuipulotu drop in form? Injured.

    I'm sure there's a pattern but I just can't see it.

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    NZ by 23-29

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    @dan54 said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @act-crusader yikes

    I suggest ALB is probably our first choice 12, and Goodhue our first choice 13 ... But not sure those who count see it that way

    I always reckon ALB is a better 13 than Goodhue, and Havili is now best 12 we got. I actually tjink Tupaea will put a bit of pressure on as a 12 too.

    Yeah I’ve always liked ALB at 13 and reckon he’s played his best test footy there.

    It was a pretty good combo (when one of them wasn’t crook) 12-Crotty 13-ALB

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