Openside flankers
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@mariner4life said in Openside flankers:
I'll always remember the Planet Rugby awards for the 2005 Lions tour and they gave Nili Latu the Provincial Player of the tour as he set the scene for every team the Lions played having a gun 7 to overcome
I went to that game in Rotorua. I seem to remember Bourke having a big game.
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@bovidae said in Openside flankers:
@mariner4life said in Openside flankers:
I'll always remember the Planet Rugby awards for the 2005 Lions tour and they gave Nili Latu the Provincial Player of the tour as he set the scene for every team the Lions played having a gun 7 to overcome
I went to that game in Rotorua. I seem to remember Bourke having a big game.
he was huge
because he was awesome
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How have none of my magpies cohort talked about Karl Lowe? Unlucky not to have 100 tests in my unbiased opinion.
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@magpie_in_aus said in Openside flankers:
Unlucky not to have 100 tests in my unbiased opinion
wasn't aware he was also eligible for a Tier 2 union.
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@mariner4life Haha, he actually is!
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@stargazer said in Openside flankers:
@mariner4life Haha, he actually is!
to be honest, I'm not shocked. I feel like everyone is!
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@stargazer said in Openside flankers:
@mariner4life Haha, he actually is!
Which nation is he available for?
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@magpie_in_aus said in Openside flankers:
How have none of my magpies cohort talked about Karl Lowe? Unlucky not to have 100 tests in my unbiased opinion.
What the fuck @Nepia ? Massive omission. Find a wall and throw yourself into it right now.
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@stargazer said in Openside flankers:
@nepia Not tier 2, but tier 3: Samoa.
Oh, is his Mum Samoan and Maori?
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@chris-b said in Openside flankers:
Given M4L's comment about 7 being our signature position - which I think nails it - it's quite surprising the number of guys who weren't really 7s who played tests there. Maybe guys like Zinzan started out as 7s - I can't remember now.
From that list - Blackadder, Thomson, Masoe to an extent, Rodney, Razor, Blowers, Taine, Barry, Zinny, Schuler (I think?), Joseph, Brewer.
Agree with that list, although I actually thought Rodders was a natural 7 when he started out, especially with his 7s background and high work rate.
He did bulk a bit and then became a specialist clean out master. Plus there were other 7 options at Wellington that almost forced the coaches hand.
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I had to go back and double check because I thought Messam may have started a test/game at openside, but he didn’t. He replaced McCaw once off the bench and covered 7.
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@stargazer said in Openside flankers:
@nepia Only Samoan as far as I know.
Karl played for NZ Māori. He also has distinctive tā moko, as does his little brother.
Don't know if they're Samoan honestly.
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@mn5 said in Openside flankers:
Liam Barry
I can't believe i had to scroll halfway down this thread before someone finally mentioned Liam Barry. He was as good as any of the blokes on the 'unlucky to be around when we had another gun' list and could have played a lot of tests otherwise. I think he debuted against France on the EOYT in 1995 and impressed immediately. But I don't remember what happened after that for his career to fizzle out rather quickly? By the SA tour the next year he'd been overtaken by Andrew Blowers I think, and I don't even recall him playing much if any SR?
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@mariner4life said in Openside flankers:
@taniwharugby said in Openside flankers:
@mariner4life I remember the 2005 Lions tour, and I was playing Fantasy Rugby where you picked players, I always had a Kiwi 7 in each of the games...Herring, Bradnock etc they all raked in loads of points I finished 3rd in the whole wide world for that one...
@Duluth and he had heart valve issues too!
I'll always remember the Planet Rugby awards for the 2005 Lions tour and they gave Nili Latu the Provincial Player of the tour as he set the scene for every team the Lions played having a gun 7 to overcome
Who did Manawatu have lighting it up in their 100 point drubbing?
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@bovidae said in Openside flankers:
@gt12 In the professional era the Cantabs will probably say Angus Gardiner.
Rated by MANY former Crusaders as the unluckiest team mate not to have worn the black jersey.
There was also a chap called Greg Smith who he duelled with at Canterbury for a year or two in much the same fashion as the Hammett vs Sexton battle. Smith was possibly even better.
Anyone mentioned Dallas Seymour??
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@shark said in Openside flankers:
@mariner4life said in Openside flankers:
@taniwharugby said in Openside flankers:
@mariner4life I remember the 2005 Lions tour, and I was playing Fantasy Rugby where you picked players, I always had a Kiwi 7 in each of the games...Herring, Bradnock etc they all raked in loads of points I finished 3rd in the whole wide world for that one...
@Duluth and he had heart valve issues too!
I'll always remember the Planet Rugby awards for the 2005 Lions tour and they gave Nili Latu the Provincial Player of the tour as he set the scene for every team the Lions played having a gun 7 to overcome
Who did Manawatu have lighting it up in their 100 point drubbing?
Josh Bradnock as TR mentioned. He wasn't in the same class as others 7s that were prominent in that tour but still gave a very good account of himself.
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@shark said in Openside flankers:
@mn5 said in Openside flankers:
Liam Barry
I can't believe i had to scroll halfway down this thread before someone finally mentioned Liam Barry. He was as good as any of the blokes on the 'unlucky to be around when we had another gun' list and could have played a lot of tests otherwise. I think he debuted against France on the EOYT in 1995 and impressed immediately.
Barry debuted on the 1993 EOYT. You may remember the controversy with Mains.
On his first tour with the All Blacks Liam Barry became the innocent participant in a major controversy. Coach Laurie Mains brought Mike Brewer into his squad for the latter part of the tour even though he had been originally unavailable for business reasons and was in Britain at the time for that purpose. When Brewer was brought in as a reserve for the international against England and especially when he took the field as a replacement against the Barbarians in the tour finale it caused a storm of protest, especially in New Zealand. This was because he had been preferrred to official selections in the team in Barry and also John Mitchell.
