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@kid-chocolate what a load of shit.
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@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kid-chocolate what a load of shit.
What exactly is shit about his/her rant?
Because if you follow the science as our illustrious leaders keep fucking yammering about, this is science fact not science fiction
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@kid-chocolate said in Coronavirus - Overall:
We’re now a year and a half into Covid, with no end in sight…
…If we really are all in this together, than **the fat-bodies need to start pulling their own weight **Easier said than done😳
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Imagine not being able to see your Mum before she dies?
Sorry to hear about that mate. It really does suck and no nobody deserves it. I feel for your wife because I have seen it too.
It happened to my wife end of last year. Sick Mum and I couldn't get her home to see her before she died, nor to get her to the funeral. I could get tickets and organise everything except MIQ to get wife home. She now has a desperately lonely heartbroken father that she can't visit either, because MIQ. The two weeks is no problem, nor the money, just can't get a booking. It's fucked.
Having said that I saw my Mum die on the kitchen floor surrounded by paramedics. That wasn't exactly fun either.
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Can somebody explain this one to me? I haven't read this anywhere and I read a lot about this because I have to convince morons to get jabbed.
When you get your jab you don't get weighed, or even asked your weight. So how do dosages work with a vaccine? It looks one size fits all. How?
My wife is only a little over half my weight but it looked like we got the same dose. The reason that I mention it is that she has felt like shit for two days and is still in bed now. I haven't had a symptom at all (sore arm at worst if I slept on it).
@Tim ?
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Can somebody explain this one to me? I haven't read this anywhere and I read a lot about this because I have to convince morons to get jabbed.
When you get your jab you don't get weighed, or even asked your weight. So how do dosages work with a vaccine? It looks one size fits all. How?
My wife is only a little over half my weight but it looked like we got the same dose. The reason that I mention it is that she has felt like shit for two days and is still in bed now. I haven't had a symptom at all (sore arm at worst if I slept on it).
@Tim ?
I had exactly that conversation with the wife who was mildly knocked around by the jab while I felt nothing. I have a pretty big tolerance for that stuff, I'll take 3x neurofen for a headache while she'd take just 1.
Guess portion size is just irrelevant for a vax
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@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kid-chocolate what a load of shit.
Does someone need to get on the treadmill?
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Guess portion size is just irrelevant for a vax
Looks that way. Had a quick google and it does seem that everyone gets the same.
The interesting part being our reactions, surely that is size / weight related? Possibly different immune system responses but I would have thought that "size matters" - yes I know.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Imagine not being able to see your Mum before she dies?
Sorry to hear about that mate. It really does suck and no nobody deserves it. I feel for your wife because I have seen it too.
It happened to my wife end of last year. Sick Mum and I couldn't get her home to see her before she died, nor to get her to the funeral. I could get tickets and organise everything except MIQ to get wife home. She now has a desperately lonely heartbroken father that she can't visit either, because MIQ. The two weeks is no problem, nor the money, just can't get a booking. It's fucked.
Having said that I saw my Mum die on the kitchen floor surrounded by paramedics. That wasn't exactly fun either.
Jesus, that’s really rough.
The MIQ system should be considered a scandal but gets no treatment at all from a compliant media.
My biggest worry is that my Dad’s cancer will go downhill super fast and I won’t make it home, but in some good news, he got a WOF from his doctor for 3 more months on the same medication.
That’s about as good as the news can be, so with luck that will hold out for a few more times and things will open up so we can get home while he is healthy enough to play with my boy.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Guess portion size is just irrelevant for a vax
Looks that way. Had a quick google and it does seem that everyone gets the same.
The interesting part being our reactions, surely that is size / weight related? Possibly different immune system responses but I would have thought that "size matters" - yes I know.
I don't think size matters with vaccines as they're just basically showing our bodies how to build antibodies.
My sister had no reaction from her two jabs, I had a mild reaction, a skinny friend of mine got knocked out for 17 hours from his second Pfizer and a large friend of mine was laid up for a day from AZ.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The MIQ system should be considered a scandal but gets no treatment at all from a compliant media.
Yep. Was the only real restriction to travel. Probably deliberately so but they could have had compassionate exemptions.
Fingers crossed for your Dad to get some time with your boy. Shitty times.
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@bovidae said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy I believe that the only thing that changes with body size (arm fat) is the gauge or length of the needle used.
Thought that too, so asked our Jabber (old friend, known her for years) and apparently not. In NZ anyway. One needle for all. Maybe she hadn't come up against anybody fat enough yet...
Hadn't thought about the dosage previously.
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I don't think size matters with vaccines as they're just basically showing our bodies how to build antibodies.
That would make sense I suppose. There is no "loading" just the immune response. Interesting how different that can be though.
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I remember reading/watching something. See link below.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/447174/covid-19-longer-needles-needed-to-vaccinate-larger-people
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@bovidae said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I remember reading/watching something. See link below.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/447174/covid-19-longer-needles-needed-to-vaccinate-larger-people
Nice to know that we don't have any really fat people in the region although a visit to the supermarket might change some minds. Probably need some even bigger needles.
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kid-chocolate what a load of shit.
What exactly is shit about his/her rant?
Because if you follow the science as our illustrious leaders keep fucking yammering about, this is science fact not science fiction
This happens now, you get weighed, your doctor or nurse tells you to lose weight if you're fat. If you're type 2 diabetic, that happens every 3-6 months. They have dieticians and everything else available for free already. There's no need for public shaming, because there's plenty of private shaming instead.
That's without getting into the genetics of it, and that there are a stack of vulnerabilities besides obesity eg getting older/surviving cancer/being born with HIV/born with other conditions. Even if every fat bastard in the world got down to a decent BMI, and somehow had no other issues remaining from their time being fat, Covid would still cause major issues for a large enough part of the population to overrun health systems.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I don't think size matters with vaccines as they're just basically showing our bodies how to build antibodies.
That would make sense I suppose. There is no "loading" just the immune response. Interesting how different that can be though.
The experience over here where we are that much further down the vax rollout has been just as random. Doesn’t seem to matter which one you’re given, whether it’s first or second, BMI or anything.
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@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kid-chocolate what a load of shit.
What exactly is shit about his/her rant?
Because if you follow the science as our illustrious leaders keep fucking yammering about, this is science fact not science fiction
This happens now, you get weighed, your doctor or nurse tells you to lose weight if you're fat. If you're type 2 diabetic, that happens every 3-6 months. They have dieticians and everything else available for free already. There's no need for public shaming, because there's plenty of private shaming instead.
That's without getting into the genetics of it, and that there are a stack of vulnerabilities besides obesity eg getting older/surviving cancer/being born with HIV/born with other conditions. Even if every fat bastard in the world got down to a decent BMI, and somehow had no other issues remaining from their time being fat, Covid would still cause major issues for a large enough part of the population to overrun health systems.
Obviously private shaming isn't working.
The number of people claiming genetics is the problem/reason is proportional to the number of Rolex watches stolen
VASTLY EXAGERRATED
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