Crusaders 2022
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@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:
And here it is. The most underwhelming Crusaders signing in many years.
Agree not overly excited about it, but what was a more 'whelming' Crusader signing from another franchise in recent years? Can't think of any at the moment.
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@crazy-horse I can only think of Bryn Hall. Tom Sanders left for the Chiefs and came back, so doesn't really count.
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@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:
@crazy-horse I can only think of Bryn Hall. Tom Sanders left for the Chiefs and came back, so doesn't really count.
Was Bryn Hall an AB? From memory he was a maligned Blue wasn't he? Much like Douglas and Reece, in a squad but not used a lot.
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@crazy-horse said in Crusaders 2022:
Much like Douglas and Reece, in a squad but not used a lot.
Nope
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@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:
@crazy-horse said in Crusaders 2022:
Much like Douglas and Reece, in a squad but not used a lot.
Nope
Nope what? Was I wrong? My memory is pretty shit around these things
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@crazy-horse Bryn Hall has never been capped by the ABs. He was in camp with the ABs in 2018 (in Japan), but didn't get picked. He played 32 games for the Blues (2013-2016) before moving South.
Douglas and Reece never played SR before they were signed by the Crusaders.
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@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:
@crazy-horse Bryn Hall has never been capped by the ABs. He was in camp with the AB 2018 (in Japan), but didn't get picked. He played 32 games for the Blues (2013-2016) before moving South.
Douglas and Reece never played SR before they were signed by the Crusaders.
Cheers, for some reason I thought they may have been squadies at the Chiefs.
But that sort of shows my point. How could TTT be one of the more underwhelming signings the Crusader have made recently, when apart from the one mentioned by @Tim, there really haven't been many, if any, exciting signings for a long time. Unless you are counting re-signings.
I have been wondering about this for a while. Are players not knocking down the door to play for Robertson, or is it more a case of the Saders looking internally? I suspect it's the latter, but I do wonder when the Saders have missed out on a couple of young up and comers recently.
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@crazy-horse said in Crusaders 2022:
I have been wondering about this for a while. Are players not knocking down the door to play for Robertson, or is it more a case of the Saders looking internally? I suspect it's the latter, but I do wonder when the Saders have missed out on a couple of young up and comers recently.
Crusaders do approach players to move - Ofa, Frizell, Fakatava are recent rumoured examples
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@crazy-horse they are great at developing and encouraging their own talent unlike other franchises. But I think it is largely circumstantial with players farmed across only 2 unions. The teams with 4 unions have a far harder time, yet keep recruiting from outside in large numbers.
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So yeah, as you lot have reminded me, there have been quite of lot of rumours around the Crusaders chasing players, but bugger all of those players have signed in the end. From memory the Saders have even had losses from their own system. Darry springs to mind as a player they probably would have wanted to keep. But they are not alone in that.
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It's clear the Crusaders can't be accused of poaching . They're probably the franchise who now signs the least players who've been developed or played elsewhere.
The players who have been approached and didn't sign; I don't think that had anything to do with the coach (Robertson), the team or the environment, but more out of loyalty to the franchise they are playing for.
TTT isn't the player who can be accused of loyalty, but nobody can really blame him. He didn't get game time at the Hurricanes, or Chiefs - being stuck behind TJP and Weber. Now he probably won't get game time, because of being stuck behind Drummond and Hall.
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@mariner4life Examples of the contrary?
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@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:
@mariner4life Examples of the contrary?
gestures broadly at all the non-Christchurch born and bred players in their squad
