England to whitewash Australia
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<p>Convicts every time</p>
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<p>So much for love thy neighbour. C'mon you Kiwis!!!! :yes:</p> -
Aussies to win - keep those wounds open!
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<p>Australia, can you imagine listening to the poms and Jones tossing off about how great they are and that they are now the favorites to win the RWC and that they are number 1 now</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="575516" data-time="1461849185"><p>Think it's the waratahs bloke? Damaging runner, like Thomas Waldrom but slightly slimmer.</p></blockquote>
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Yep. Has been with the Tahs for a few years but in Palu's shadow. <br><br>
Lineout ability, good pace, around that good size frame for an eighth man. Starting to play 80 minutes this season after a few 50-60 slots. Only 24 so plenty of improvement left.<br><br>
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<p>Fair point. Four spots up for grabs is very settled in the greater scheme of things.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>What would your 23 look like?</p>
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<p>That's pretty settled as well:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>16. TPN</p>
<p>17. Slipper</p>
<p>18. Ben Alexander</p>
<p>19. Rory Arnold/Sam Carter/Adam Coleman</p>
<p>20. Ben McCalman</p>
<p>21. Nick Stirzacker</p>
<p>22. Christian Lealiifano maybe</p>
<p>23. Beale/Toomua</p>
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<p>The short version is there won't be too many bolters or debutants.</p> -
<p>Tomane will be a big loss - he's been in some special form for the Brumbies.</p>
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<p>TIL - England didn't tour Australia until 1975 when they played in Sydney and then Brisbane. This will be the first three Test tour.</p> -
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<p>Who do the non-Aussies and non-English want to win the series?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Ockers for me</p>
<p> </p>
<p>A bit like choosing between gonorrhea and herpes I'll grant you but, gonorrhea doesn't linger for your lifetime :)</p>
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<p>I win each and a draw will do me , and then they both can stress about what might have been . </p> -
<p>Are there any really good prospects (bolters) coming through on the Aussie side this season?</p>
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<p>Are there any really good prospects (bolters) coming through on the Aussie side this season?</p>
<p>I haven't noticed anyone in particular - but I don't watch all of their games.</p>
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<p>Jed Holloway seems like a decent prospect at 8, as does the Fijian centre for the Reds. Apart from these two, I can't think of too many decent young players coming through through the Aussie ranks.</p> -
<p>Yeah Holloway and Kerevi are certainly in the frame.</p>
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<p>Another one who may get a run is Dane Haylett-Petty, the fullback for the Force. Doing well with very few opportunities, could snag one of the wing spots.</p> -
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Another one who may get a run is Dane Haylett-Petty, the fullback for the Force. Doing well with very few opportunities, could snag one of the wing spots.</p></blockquote>
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He's got a good boot too. <br><br>
Many were predicting preseason that the young 1st 5 from the Rebels, Debeczeni would be a bit of a bolter this year. Not sure. He's been a bit up and down IMO. <br><br>
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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/04/29/rob-andrew-resigns-from-rfu-and-will-leave-at-end-of-season/'>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/04/29/rob-andrew-resigns-from-rfu-and-will-leave-at-end-of-season/</a> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Frank" data-cid="575680" data-time="1461917185">
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<p>Are there any really good prospects (bolters) coming through on the Aussie side this season?</p>
<p>I haven't noticed anyone in particular - but I don't watch all of their games.</p>
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<p>Reece Hodge of the Rebels?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MiketheSnow" data-cid="575946" data-time="1462006210"><p>Reece Hodge of the Rebels?</p></blockquote>
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<p>For Wales? Looks like he'd fit Gatland ball perfick.</p>
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<p>His outside break is too good and not enough contact.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="575519" data-time="1461850611">
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<p>Who do the non-Aussies and non-English want to win the series?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Ockers for me</p>
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<p>A bit like choosing between gonorrhea and herpes I'll grant you but, gonorrhea doesn't linger for your lifetime :)</p>
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<p>I'd quite like to replicate the joy I felt watching the lions beat them a couple of years ago. So I'm going to go with the poms, Eddie coaching them would be the icing on the cake.</p> -
Ockers for me.<br><br>
Don't like Eddie even more than I don't like Cheika.<br><br>
Also hate the uppityness of the English rugby media more than the uppityness of the Aussie rugby media.<br><br>
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<p>I think the positive about Australia winning , we get the opportunity to beat them straight after which puts everything in order ( for us) </p>
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<p>England win , they go off thinking they are the new super power </p> -
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<p>Ockers for me.<br><br>
Don't like Eddie even more than I don't like Cheika.<br><br>
Also hate the uppityness of the English rugby media more than the uppityness of the Aussie rugby media.<br><br>
Also Aussie rugby could do with the positivity in it's battle with the evil of the other codes.</p>
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<p>We don't help ourselves with the kind of bullshit going on at the Brumbies now.</p> -
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<p>We don't help ourselves with the kind of bullshit going on at the Brumbies now.</p>
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<p>What is the story there? It seems to get messier every week.</p> -
One perspective:<br><br><b>CEO:</b> "Hey, I was looking at the books, and there is something fucking wrong here."<br><br><b>Board:</b> "Oh that. Don't worry about it. Taken care of. In the past. Moving right along."<br><br><b>CEO:</b> "Yeah nah. I'm in charge here, arses are on the line. What the fuck happened?"<br><br><b>Board:</b> "Look, its nothing. Just a bit of creative accounting to sort some shit out. We're good. <i>Move on</i>."<br><br><b>CEO:</b> "OK then, you leave me no choice"<br><br><i>[Bunfight ensues. Toys are thrown. Matter dragged into public. EGM. Another EGM. ACT Clubs wonder what the fuck is going on. Everyone outside ACT remembers Canberra exists. Phone calls to St Leonards are made.]</i><br><br><br><b>Board:</b> "Here's some money. Shut up and fuck off."<br><br><b>CEO:</b> "OK then but I'm still not hap-"<br><br><b>Board:</b> "JOE! MAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYTE!"<br><br><b>Australian Rugby Fans:</b> "Yep, another old boys circle-jerk"
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<p>It seems that Chris Ashton has spat the dummy after missing out on the Oz trip. I know he polarises opinion and is not the best tackler but he remains a bloody good finisher. I'm not sure I would have left him out.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36363077'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36363077</a></p> -
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<p>It seems that Chris Ashton has spat the dummy after missing out on the Oz trip. I know he polarises opinion and is not the best tackler but he remains a bloody good finisher. I'm not sure I would have left him out.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36363077'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36363077</a></p>
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<p>Ashton has a massive ego, Eddie Jones has a massive ego too. Not hard to see how they might not see eye to eye or like each other much.</p>
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<p>The big difference is that Eddie Jones is the coach so if Ashton wants to play international Rugby again he needs to listen and act on what Eddie has to say.</p> -
<p>Tuilagi gone now :mad1:</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36369123'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36369123</a></p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="582229" data-time="1464078754"><p>if Ashton wants to play international Rugby again he needs to listen and act on what Eddie has to say.</p></blockquote>
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Declining the Saxons place probably not his smartest move. Of course, not noted for smart moves. -
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Tuilagi gone now :mad1:<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36369123">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36369123</a></p></blockquote>
Bugger - we'll no doubt have to get another Samoan to replace him. -
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<p>Declining the Saxons place probably not his smartest move. Of course, not noted for smart moves.</p>
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<p>Have to say my opinion of him hasn't changed since he threw his toys.</p> -
<p>I think </p>
<p> </p>
<p>9. Phibbs</p>
<p>10. Foley</p>
<p>11. Kerevi</p>
<p>12. Toomua</p>
<p>13. Folau</p>
<p>14. Kuridrani</p>
<p>15. Beale</p>
<p> </p>
<p>would have been a great backline. Shame Beale got injured. Any other decent options at 15 to allow Folau to play centre?</p> -
Is Ashley cooper available?<br><br><br>
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Two not quick centres on the wing and a fullback at centre? Looks a bit shit to me.
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<p>I think </p>
<p> </p>
<p>9. Phibbs</p>
<p>10. Foley</p>
<p>11. Kerevi</p>
<p>12. Toomua</p>
<p>13. <strong>Folau</strong></p>
<p>14. <strong>Kuridrani</strong></p>
<p>15. Beale</p>
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<p>would have been a great backline. Shame Beale got injured. Any other decent options at 15 to allow Folau to play centre?</p>
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<p>Seems a bit odd to put these guys in those positions.....are they trying to emulate the glory days when they shoehorned three Super Rugby fullbacks into the one starting line up in Roff, Burke and Latham just so they could get all their best players on the park at once ?</p> -
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<p> </p>
<p><strong>would have been a great backline. Shame Beale got injured. Any other decent options at 15 to allow Folau to play centre?</strong></p>
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<p>Dane Haylett-Petty has had a breakout season in a very poor Force side. Worth consideration.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="582297" data-time="1464125377"><p>Seems a bit odd to put these guys in those positions.....are they trying to emulate the glory days when they shoehorned three Super Rugby fullbacks into the one starting line up in Roff, Burke and Latham just so they could get all their best players on the park at once ?</p></blockquote>
Bit odd for you to post something harking back to the nineties or early noughties bro. What next, something about big muscly guys? Scotland? -
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<p>Bit odd for you to post something harking back to the nineties or early noughties bro. What next,<strong> something about big muscly guys? Scotland?</strong></p>
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<p>How's this brudda, two for one, check out the UBS on this Scotsman, give them the gold medal already !!!!!!!</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.rugbydump.com/2016/05/5096/scotland-go-into-beast-mode-with-gymnastics-flip-ahead-of-olympic-7s'>http://www.rugbydump.com/2016/05/5096/scotland-go-into-beast-mode-with-gymnastics-flip-ahead-of-olympic-7s</a></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:8px;">even though they have to compete as Great Britain</span></p> -
<p>As one commentator said on FoxSports the other day: Yes, you could confidently put Folau at 13. But who else has been ripping it up at 15 this year that would be better than him?</p>
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<p>9 Phipps</p>
<p>10 Foley</p>
<p>11 Horne</p>
<p>12 Lealiifano</p>
<p>13 Kuridrani</p>
<p>14 DHP</p>
<p>15 Folau</p>
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<p>That would be alright.</p> -
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<p>Bugger - we'll no doubt have to get another Samoan to replace him.</p>
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<p>Sam's already acclimatised ;)</p> -
<p>The whole Folau at centre thing confuses me. He's done a decent fist of it so far this year, but hardly world beating.</p>
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<p>It's like Cheika never saw the All Blacks at RWC 99, 03 and 07.</p> -
<p>Does Aus not have any other centres? Folau is such a threat from full back it seems a bit of a waste sticking him in the centre.</p>
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<p>It seems like Folau was defending at fullback a lot for 'tahs anyway. He was only attacking at 13. I can see that working but it depends on who plays fullback if Folau is at centre.</p>
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<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><b>Wallabies 39-man training squad for the England series</b></span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Allan Alaalatoa (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Rory Arnold (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Sam Carter (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Adam Coleman (Western Force)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Scott Fardy (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Israel Folau (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Bernard Foley (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Nick Frisby (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Liam Gill (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">James Hanson (Melbourne Rebels)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Mike Harris (Melbourne Rebels)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Dane Haylett-Petty (Western Force)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Greg Holmes (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Michael Hooper (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Rob Horne (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">James Horwill (Harlequins)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Leroy Houston (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Karmichael Hunt (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Sekope Kepu (Bordeaux)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Samu Kerevi (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Tevita Kuridrani (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Christian Leali’ifano (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Ben McCalman (Western Force)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Sean McMahon (Melbourne Rebels)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Stephen Moore (captain, Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Luke Morahan (Western Force)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Dean Mumm (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Eto Nabuli (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Taqele Naiyaravoro (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Wycliff Palu (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Nick Phipps (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">David Pocock (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Tatafu Polota-Nau (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Joe Powell (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Rob Simmons (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Scott Sio (Brumbies)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Will Skelton (NSW Waratahs)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">James Slipper (Queensland Reds)</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Toby Smith (Melbourne Rebels)</span></p>