Poll: Foster reappointment
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@nostrildamus said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@machpants did he say that or was it just the forwards coach?
Rennie? Yeah he said he took the ozzie job as it was offered months before ABs even officially opened their's
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@machpants ah no sorry:
"But no improvement in our ‘physical dominance’ type stuff means he should go."
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@nostrildamus said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@machpants ah no sorry:
"But no improvement in our ‘physical dominance’ type stuff means he should go."
A reference to Foster I assumed.And plumtree, both have mentioned it multiple times
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@chris well thats how Foster got the gig....
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@taniwharugby said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@chris well thats how Foster got the gig....
The Whole problem right there,Nothing fresh at all for a million years.
Under that stupid system Plumtree is next AB Coach,God help us
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@chris sad but true.
It worked to re-appoint Henry, it worked to have Hansen as his successor, jury out over Fosters success (some will say it is clear) but we are at a cross road now...
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@taniwharugby said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@chris sad but true.
It worked to re-appoint Henry, it worked to have Hansen as his successor, jury out over Fosters success (some will say it is clear) but we are at a cross road now...
Yes totally agree. The Devil at the Cross roads maybe,
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@nzzp Well NZR have signer Robertson until 2024, I guessing with that's when they aiming for him to get job , along with hopefully Tony Brown ( who turned Robertson down last time) as 1 assistant, and maybe with Jamie Joseph.
Whether Foster keeps job or not is not a lot of skin off my nose, but the presumption od posters whose mani knowledge of how appointments are made etc that they know why he got job or Robertson missed or indeed why Joseph and Rennie didn't apply is breathtaking. -
@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp Well NZR have signer Robertson until 2024, I guessing with that's when they aiming for him to get job , along with hopefully Tony Brown ( who turned Robertson down last time) as 1 assistant, and maybe with Jamie Joseph.
Whether Foster keeps job or not is not a lot of skin off my nose, but the presumption od posters whose mani knowledge of how appointments are made etc that they know why he got job or Robertson missed or indeed why Joseph and Rennie didn't apply is breathtaking.Been here long?
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@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp You certainly make a huge assumption don't you? It's incredible how you can read their minds. Both had been offered jobs and accepted them well before NZR advertised and you reckon they had both flown the white flag??
Pretty sure it was in media at the time - that the process was seen as a closed shop.
Plus, I'm a mind reader
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp You certainly make a huge assumption don't you? It's incredible how you can read their minds. Both had been offered jobs and accepted them well before NZR advertised and you reckon they had both flown the white flag??
Pretty sure it was in media at the time - that the process was seen as a closed shop.
Plus, I'm a mind reader
Fair enough mate, mind you I probably read too much stuff over the years to know the media likes click bait more than being 100% correct. -
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@dan54 you'd have to ask why prime candidates don't apply... It's more than timing I'm sure
They don’t want all the mental anguish, public berating, criticism, that will surely follow when holding “the most important job” in NZ?
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@dan54 you'd have to ask why prime candidates don't apply... It's more than timing I'm sure
Give it the benefit of the doubt. Assume it is a totally open contest and Joseph, Rennie and Gatland all throw their hats in the ring with Robertson and Foster.
Why would you turn down a guaranteed 4 year contract with Japan or Australia, or plumb Lions gig for a 20% chance of a two year contract with some of the drawbacks mentioned.
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@dan54 you'd have to ask why prime candidates don't apply... It's more than timing I'm sure
Well I thought the prime candidates that were available did apply (Foster and Razor). When Joseph and Rennie were offered jobs at beginning or year (a good 6 months before AB job was advertised) did you really think they would say no thanks, I will wait and take my chances later in year? Don't forget there was one job , and even if you discounted Foster, either Joseph (my choice) Rennie or Razor was going to miss out. I have been on rugby boards where we have appointed coaches (admittedly at club, and provincial level not international), and you know what, in most cases there were accusations of bias and already had coach picked etc, funnily by people who usually were associated with losing applicant etc. And seldom by people who were actually involved in process.
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@bovidae said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
depends - does he think Bridge is one of our premier wingers or not?
If Robertson was the AB coach do you seriously think he wouldn't have selected Bridge in his squad? And he would have picked Bridge ahead of Clarke last year too.
The problem with having a coach going straight from a Super/provincial team to coach the ABs is that they tend to revert to selecting the players they know and are most familiar with. We saw that with Mains and Thorburn in the early 1990s and Mitchell and Deans with the Cantablacks.
The interesting thing about the Cantablacks was that pre- that selection the Fern's voting ended up pretty much spot on the Cantablacks, as well!
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@chris-b said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@bovidae said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
depends - does he think Bridge is one of our premier wingers or not?
If Robertson was the AB coach do you seriously think he wouldn't have selected Bridge in his squad? And he would have picked Bridge ahead of Clarke last year too.
The problem with having a coach going straight from a Super/provincial team to coach the ABs is that they tend to revert to selecting the players they know and are most familiar with. We saw that with Mains and Thorburn in the early 1990s and Mitchell and Deans with the Cantablacks.
The interesting thing about the Cantablacks was that pre- that selection the Fern's voting ended up pretty much spot on the Cantablacks, as well!
those boys were pretty dominant... and then combinations come into play.
Kinda like Auckland + a few in the 80s/early 90s
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@voodoo said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
Can't see why you'd exclude him from the process? May as well let him pitch. Unless it meant tying up assistants from aligning with others I guess.
That pretty much shows the stupidity of having pre-assembled coaching teams apply. Something that harks back to the Henry-Deans contest....
Just appoint the Head Coach and then work together to pick the assistants.
