Poll: Foster reappointment
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@voodoo said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
Other than Robertson, who else would put their hands up?
Gatland
MacdonaldThe best coaches didn't even bother applying last time (which tells you something abuot the process): Joseph, Rennie, Brown
Well those named coaches already had jobs lat time with countries who don't ask for applications, so a little bit of a furphy there mate. Joseph was already with Japan, and Rennie was with Aus
couldn't disagree more. They didn't throw their hats in the ring because the process looked so rigged to reappoint Foster.
That's the problem - they are essentially appointing the coach, so they should just do that. I don't see it as much different to a board essentially appointing a CEO (after some secret meetings/interviews). The NZRFU is the problem.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
unless im missing something ?
The glimmer of hope is that the reappointment isn't until the end of the year. Of course, actually finding an alternative that isn't active in NZ right now isn't likely.
most likely outcome: Foster gets reappointed, Robertson comes in as assistant (perhaps along with another ).
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@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@snowy said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
despite what people think of him .
A somewhat likeable buffoon is not who I want as AB coach myself. He just doesn't come across as very smart. Personality and some selections would attest to this as well as his history.
yeah im not in his fanclub either ,
but he was that same person when they appointed him, so you would think it would require something bad for them to do an about face , and if this season is successful well , its hard to see it happening isnt it ?
unless im missing something ?
Unfortunately, I agree with all of that. Unless I am missing the same thing.
@nzzp Hasn't Robertson said, head coach or nothing?
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
unless im missing something ?
The glimmer of hope is that the reappointment isn't until the end of the year. Of course, actually finding an alternative that isn't active in NZ right now isn't likely.
most likely outcome: Foster gets reappointed, Robertson comes in as assistant (perhaps along with another ).
Why Would Robertson want to be associated and connected to Foster's coaching campaign,He may die with Foster without being able to have a shot doing it his way.
Sensible to wait and hope he gets a chance as Head Coach,Then at least if he fails it all on him,And he had a real crack at it. -
@snowy said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@snowy said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
despite what people think of him .
A somewhat likeable buffoon is not who I want as AB coach myself. He just doesn't come across as very smart. Personality and some selections would attest to this as well as his history.
yeah im not in his fanclub either ,
but he was that same person when they appointed him, so you would think it would require something bad for them to do an about face , and if this season is successful well , its hard to see it happening isnt it ?
unless im missing something ?
Unfortunately, I agree with all of that. Unless I am missing the same thing.
@nzzp Hasn't Robertson said, head coach or nothing?
Yup and he is signed until a yer after the RWC so at least we won; lose him. Rennie et al, whether they saw it as a rigged process I don’t know. But the fact that the process was so late they would have to try for ABs coach and turn down offers they had already. Dumb, the other countries did their process much earlier, NZR left it far too late.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
So what do we think he needs to do to keep his job ?
Could the boks games decide it ?
if we lost 2-0 would that be see ya later ?
I think if he went though undefeated this year it would be difficult to replace him despite what people think of him .
I’d expect retaking the No 1 ranking, which will be hard, and not losing the up front battle to SA, Wales, France, Arg, or Ireland. A loss in there is OK, 100% is hard. But no improvement in our ‘physical dominance’ type stuff means he should go.
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@machpants did he say that or was it just the forwards coach?
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@nostrildamus said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@machpants did he say that or was it just the forwards coach?
Rennie? Yeah he said he took the ozzie job as it was offered months before ABs even officially opened their's
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@machpants ah no sorry:
"But no improvement in our ‘physical dominance’ type stuff means he should go."
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@nostrildamus said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@machpants ah no sorry:
"But no improvement in our ‘physical dominance’ type stuff means he should go."
A reference to Foster I assumed.And plumtree, both have mentioned it multiple times
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@chris well thats how Foster got the gig....
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@taniwharugby said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@chris well thats how Foster got the gig....
The Whole problem right there,Nothing fresh at all for a million years.
Under that stupid system Plumtree is next AB Coach,God help us
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@chris sad but true.
It worked to re-appoint Henry, it worked to have Hansen as his successor, jury out over Fosters success (some will say it is clear) but we are at a cross road now...
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@taniwharugby said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@chris sad but true.
It worked to re-appoint Henry, it worked to have Hansen as his successor, jury out over Fosters success (some will say it is clear) but we are at a cross road now...
Yes totally agree. The Devil at the Cross roads maybe,
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@nzzp Well NZR have signer Robertson until 2024, I guessing with that's when they aiming for him to get job , along with hopefully Tony Brown ( who turned Robertson down last time) as 1 assistant, and maybe with Jamie Joseph.
Whether Foster keeps job or not is not a lot of skin off my nose, but the presumption od posters whose mani knowledge of how appointments are made etc that they know why he got job or Robertson missed or indeed why Joseph and Rennie didn't apply is breathtaking. -
@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp Well NZR have signer Robertson until 2024, I guessing with that's when they aiming for him to get job , along with hopefully Tony Brown ( who turned Robertson down last time) as 1 assistant, and maybe with Jamie Joseph.
Whether Foster keeps job or not is not a lot of skin off my nose, but the presumption od posters whose mani knowledge of how appointments are made etc that they know why he got job or Robertson missed or indeed why Joseph and Rennie didn't apply is breathtaking.Been here long?
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@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp You certainly make a huge assumption don't you? It's incredible how you can read their minds. Both had been offered jobs and accepted them well before NZR advertised and you reckon they had both flown the white flag??
Pretty sure it was in media at the time - that the process was seen as a closed shop.
Plus, I'm a mind reader
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp You certainly make a huge assumption don't you? It's incredible how you can read their minds. Both had been offered jobs and accepted them well before NZR advertised and you reckon they had both flown the white flag??
Pretty sure it was in media at the time - that the process was seen as a closed shop.
Plus, I'm a mind reader
Fair enough mate, mind you I probably read too much stuff over the years to know the media likes click bait more than being 100% correct.
