Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..)
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@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
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@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
Tl;dr
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@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
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@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
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@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
I interpreted the lock the thread comment as being due to the win on Saturday night. If not my mistake.
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@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
I interpreted the lock the thread comment as being due to the win on Saturday night. If not my mistake.
Ah gotcha!
Look it is hard to keep up with exactly where the bitching starts and stops with you guys. 35 point flogging and people still want to yeet a bloke.
Tough crowd.
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@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
I interpreted the lock the thread comment as being due to the win on Saturday night. If not my mistake.
Ah gotcha!
Look it is hard to keep up with exactly where the bitching starts and stops with you guys. 35 point flogging and people still want to yeet a bloke.
Tough crowd.
When you've been knocked out of three consecutive World Cups by a side that you put 50+ on earlier in the year you learn to take those wins with a grain of salt.
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@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
I interpreted the lock the thread comment as being due to the win on Saturday night. If not my mistake.
Ah gotcha!
Look it is hard to keep up with exactly where the bitching starts and stops with you guys. 35 point flogging and people still want to yeet a bloke.
Tough crowd.
When you've been knocked out of three consecutive World Cups by a side that you put 50+ on earlier in the year you learn to take those wins with a grain of salt.
Never put your gift in a horse's mouth. Or something.
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@nta said in [Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the > Look it is hard to keep up with exactly where the bitching starts and stops with you guys. 35 point flogging and people still want to yeet a bloke.
Tough crowd.
Spot on. All black dominance is built on high standards. I don't think we're improving much at the moment, and the coaching is showing all the issues we had oer the last few years. Foster is a serviceable coach, but we should not accept 'serviceable'... and the manner of his appointment means that some change is needed.
I'm in the wrong thread, but while stoked with the win, it papers over some of the issues we have struggled with for a few years
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back to the title of the topic, there is one other question (at least) and sorry if already discussed: but was it a good idea to name Cane captain? Seems to me Sam Whitelock has a. been good and b. consistently starting.
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What if Foster actually isn't that good a head coach and decent assistant coaches don't want that risk to their reputation?
I don't have much to go on here, just the playing of the Chiefs and the ABs.. -
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nzzp you haven't had a decent first-phase attack since the McCaw era. Living off counterattack works until nobody gives you the ball.
Who would’ve thought Eddie Jones could have successfully deployed that exact game plan in 2003 AND in 2019
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@junior said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nzzp you haven't had a decent first-phase attack since the McCaw era. Living off counterattack works until nobody gives you the ball.
Who would’ve thought Eddie Jones could have successfully deployed that exact game plan in 2003 AND in 2019
Mils scored in 2003. We wuz robbed.
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@junior said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nzzp you haven't had a decent first-phase attack since the McCaw era. Living off counterattack works until nobody gives you the ball.
Who would’ve thought Eddie Jones could have successfully deployed that exact game plan in 2003 AND in 2019
In terms of us having no answer to the two opensides was particularly annoying given that Hansen had made the call to have Cane and Ardie together which yielded good results in prior matches and then did not stick to it. That said we got basically three of the worst AB outings from Read, Rettalick and Whitelock individually and collectively and it was always going to be uphill. Ardie was probably our best forward at the World Cup and plays way above his weight, and I am liking the combination with him and Akira in particular, not really understanding the Ardie hate.
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Mo'unga seems liberated by the confidence of being told that he is the undisputed10 rather than all this pussy fotting about trying to cram all the glittering guys into the same side.
I totally agree with the sentiments expressed. Nice result saturday but our balance in the loosies and from 12 out is still fucked.
Ruby is effectively a simple game and that's the way the best teams play it.
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@dogmeat said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Mo'unga seems liberated by the confidence of being told that he is the undisputed10 rather than all this pussy fotting about trying to cram all the glittering guys into the same side.
I totally agree with the sentiments expressed. Nice result saturday but our balance in the loosies and from 12 out is still fucked.
Ruby is effectively a simple game and that's the way the best teams play it.
Yes I think he played well, I do question whether he should hide in the backline though.