Canes vs Chiefs
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="575376" data-time="1461815835">
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<p>What makes it most dodgy is that the limp doesn't match the stated back injury. He limped like he had a foot or lower leg injury, but he didn't limp at all just after the line-out.</p>
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<p>can have a sore back and limp...so who knows?</p>
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<p>I dont know about you guys, but when I get a back twinge usually related to sciatica.. I limp.. but can also lightly jog. I also stand incredibly upright when standing still.. alot like the prop did. He didnt lift in a line out, run with the ball, tackle anyone, hit a ruck or push in a scrum. </p>
<p>Unless any of you lot are doctors who specialise in back injuries .. you are just making assumptions and accusations based on fuck all.</p>
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<p>If you have a back twinge that is hampering you./.. you know what you REALLY don't want to do? Push in a professional rugby games scrum. You know what else is quite common... when you know you are going off.. you give up the charade of not being hurt. You stop trying to play through it, you stop trying to hide the limp and you just do whatever is most comfortable.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="575373" data-time="1461815444">
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<p>Condone it not, you've got to admit it all looks pretty suspect, well Dane Coles thought so and I'd take his version of it over any on here</p>
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<p>Jogging to the breakdown, getting talked to by 2 trainers and then limping off with a trainer as a crutch - yeah naaa</p>
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<p>I dont know about you guys, but when I get a back twinge usually related to sciatica.. I limp.. but can also lightly jog. I also stand incredibly upright when standing still.. alot like the prop did. He didnt lift in a line out, run with the ball, tackle anyone, hit a ruck or push in a scrum. </p>
<p>Unless any of you lot are doctors who specialise in back injuries .. you are just making assumptions and accusations based on fuck all.</p>
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<p>Yep, words of wisdom. It's settled. Nothing to see here. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the Chiefs got caught partaking in a bit of gamesmanship.</p> -
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<p>can have a sore back and limp...so who knows?</p>
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<p>Adrenaline does funny things</p>
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<p>Adrenaline doesn't cause you to limp. Quite the contrary. Usually, adrenaline stops/postpones the pain signal from reaching the brain, where it's translated into a pain experience.</p> -
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<p>Adrenaline doesn't cause you to limp. Quite the contrary. Usually, adrenaline stops/postpones the pain signal from reaching the brain, where it's translated into a pain experience.</p>
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<p>Ever had sciatica?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="575382" data-time="1461816519">
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<p>Yep, words of wisdom. It's settled. Nothing to see here. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the Chiefs got caught partaking in a bit of gamesmanship.</p>
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<p>It is just an accusation with incredibly shaky evidence at this stage. What part of what I said do you think is untrue? or irrelevant?</p> -
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<p>Ever had sciatica?</p>
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<p>Yes, multiple times. Not that I see the relevance of that question. This was not about whether back injuries (of whatever kind) can cause pain. It was about adrenaline.</p> -
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<p>Adrenaline doesn't cause you to limp. Quite the contrary. Usually, adrenaline stops/postpones the pain signal from reaching the brain, where it's translated into a pain experience.</p>
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<p>Think you are looking at it form the wrong way I meant it...</p>
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<p>adrenaline masked the symptom (back pain, limp, whatever) and once he stopped, he could feel it, the trainer came over, he said bro, it hurts, but I can probably keep going, trainer says, nah bro, we are getting monstered, is better if you actually come off!</p> -
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<p>Yes, multiple times. Not that I see the relevance of that question. This was not about whether back injuries (of whatever kind) can cause pain. It was about adrenaline.</p>
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<p>You don't see the relevance of Sciatica to a player coming off the field for back pain? :think:</p> -
<p>Well the Chiefs have used that get out of jail card relatively early in the season. Still have Moody, Franks and the lads to face. Don't think you could do Golden Oldies twice in 1 season without raising eyebrows.</p>
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<p>Think you are looking at it form the wrong way I meant it...</p>
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<p>adrenaline masked the symptom (back pain, limp, whatever) and once he stopped, he could feel it, the trainer came over, he said bro, it hurts, but I can probably keep going, trainer says, nah bro, we are getting monstered, is better if you actually come off <strong>before a huge scrum that could turn your back twinge to a serious injury!</strong></p>
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<p>Think you are looking at it form the wrong way I meant it...</p>
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<p>adrenaline masked the symptom (back pain, limp, whatever) and once he stopped, he could feel it, the trainer came over, he said bro, it hurts, but I can probably keep going, trainer says, nah bro, we are getting monstered, is better if you actually come off!</p>
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<p>Okay, yes, I misunderstood your comment. It's quite possible that it happened that way. That's why I said it looked dodgy in a previous post, but that I would prefer to see footage of earlier in the game.</p>
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<p>By the way (and this is not a response to you taniwharugby), calling something dodgy doesn't mean an accusation; just that it does look suspicious and that there is a need to find out whether there is a reason for accusations.</p> -
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<p>You don't see the relevance of Sciatica to a player coming off the field for back pain? :think:</p>
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<p>Are you on purpose misinterpreting my posts?</p> -
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<p>Well the Chiefs have used that get out of jail card relatively early in the season. Still have Moody, Franks and the lads to face. Don't think you could do Golden Oldies twice in 1 season without raising eyebrows.</p>
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<p>I don't care if he was injured or not, but it does raise a problem for the rest of the comp.</p>
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<p>As a supporter of the team with the best scrum in the comp, I don't want this to happen to us every time we get a significant advantage at scrum time.</p>
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<p>I currently have sciatica and it sucks.</p> -
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<p>Okay, yes, I misunderstood your comment. It's quite possible that it happened that way. That's why I said it looked dodgy in a previous post, but that I would prefer to see footage of earlier in the game.</p>
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<p>By the way (and this is not a response to you taniwharugby), calling something dodgy doesn't mean an accusation; just that it does look suspicious and that there is a need to find out whether there is a reason for accusations.</p>
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<p>I reckon calling something dodgy is very much an accusation.</p>
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<p>Are you on purpose misinterpreting my posts?</p>
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<p>No. I think we were talking at cross purposes</p> -
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<p>I don't care if he was injured or not, but it does raise a problem for the rest of the comp.</p>
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<p>As a supporter of the team with the best scrum in the comp, I don't want this to happen to us every time we get a significant advantage at scrum time.</p>
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<p>I currently have sciatica and it sucks.</p>
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<p>I would love it if the Chiefs got to play against 14 men because they had a dominant scrum</p> -
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<p>I would love it if the Chiefs got to play against 14 men because they had a dominant scrum</p>
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<p>Well the Chiefs have used that get out of jail card relatively early in the season. Still have Moody, Franks and the lads to face. Don't think you could do Golden Oldies twice in 1 season without raising eyebrows.</p>
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<p>Been there, done that, Chiefs won.</p> -
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<p>Well the Chiefs have used that get out of jail card relatively early in the season. Still have Moody, Franks and the lads to face. Don't think you could do Golden Oldies twice in 1 season without raising eyebrows.</p>
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<p>Nah, they just set up the fact that due to a horrendous run of injuries their propping stocks are quite low and the guys they have aren't equipped to play both sides. I think that next time the ref will let them play with 15 out of pity. Crafty.</p>
