Olympics Thread
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@stargazer said in Olympics Thread:
This study suggests otherwise. The conclusions are on page 17.
The conclusions says the same thing - there are many footballs, one soccer.
"“football” is a venerable word in the English language, which described a variety of medieval
pastimes, and which was adopted to describe several different formal codes in the last half
of the nineteenth century, including Association football, Rugby football (Union and League
versions), Gaelic football, Australian Rules Football and what Americans typically call
football and the rest of the world calls “American football”"The key point being the use of the word 'football' without any other clarification on the type to exclusively mean Association Football, was not used in the UK until years after the term soccer had been coined. Yes 'football' has now become to only mean soccer in the UK but that is not how it started. Soccer was first, football has been aroung for ever - but there are many types of football
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@machpants I've also read several studies, mostly UK ones.
The graph that you posted earlier, looks like the graphs that shows the fraction of times the word 'soccer' has been used of the total number of occasions that both 'soccer' and 'football' have been used. So it doesn't show at all how many times 'football' has been used, and I'm quite confident that if it did, the trendline would be much higher than the 'soccer' line in that graph.
Anyway. I didn't mean to distract from the thread, so I'll leave it at this.
Obviously, your read of the conclusions of the study I posted is entirely different from mine. Quite funny in itself.
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@machpants said in Olympics Thread:
@bovidae said in Olympics Thread:
A Burnleyesque win there. Reid was immense.
Now NZ needs to get another win.
Is that our first ever All Whites win in a major tournament?
Yes.
The goal secured New Zealand’s first-ever win in men’s football at the Olympics, after previous draws in Beijing in 2008 and London in 2012.
Only draws at the WC in SA.
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@machpants said in Olympics Thread:
@bovidae said in Olympics Thread:
A Burnleyesque win there. Reid was immense.
Now NZ needs to get another win.
Is that our first ever All Whites win in a major tournament?
I wish the Olympics was on spark. Then I could watch the game or a highlights package despite missing it in real time
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@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@machpants said in Olympics Thread:
@bovidae said in Olympics Thread:
A Burnleyesque win there. Reid was immense.
Now NZ needs to get another win.
Is that our first ever All Whites win in a major tournament?
I wish the Olympics was on spark. Then I could watch the game or a highlights package despite missing it in real time
One goal, won't take long
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@machpants said in Olympics Thread:
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@machpants said in Olympics Thread:
@bovidae said in Olympics Thread:
A Burnleyesque win there. Reid was immense.
Now NZ needs to get another win.
Is that our first ever All Whites win in a major tournament?
I wish the Olympics was on spark. Then I could watch the game or a highlights package despite missing it in real time
One goal, won't take long
Perfect for a Spark 5 minute highlights package
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@stargazer said in Olympics Thread:
@canefan Do you have Sky Sports?
Yup. Can't find the replay. Not on replay on skygo either. Yet.
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The stats make us look luckier than we were. Our defence was pretty assured through the first half, where south Korea did dominate possession, and then we looked the better team until we scored, at which point Korea threw players forward but never really threatened.
Aside from the goal (and a couple of sharp saves)key moment might have been a triple change by South Korea early in the second half. Really disrupted their rhythm and allowed a lot more time on the ball and started our period of dominance that lead to the goal.
Great result. Stoked that Wood got the goal too.
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@canefan I think they appear the next day.
Not sure whether these links work, but - for example - the highlights of the Football Ferns v Australia are here (found under Tokyo 2020 - Olympic Moments):
And the full match is here (found under "Tokyo 2020 Olympics - Football"):
I found these categories by going to "Browse", then "Channels", then "Sky Sport".
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@stargazer said in Olympics Thread:
@machpants FOOTball (sorry, pet peeve).
Association football, or Soccer. As opposed to any other form of football.
I really hate it when people try and claim "football" is the exclusive name of one type of football.
Very English centric.
And awesome result for the Olywhites Soccer team!!!
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@machpants said in Olympics Thread:
@bovidae said in Olympics Thread:
A Burnleyesque win there. Reid was immense.
Now NZ needs to get another win.
Is that our first ever All Whites win in a major tournament?
We made the knockout round in U-19s in 2019 plus last 16 in U-20s in 2015
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@booboo said in Olympics Thread:
Association football, or Soccer. As opposed to any other form of football.
Going full derailment on the thread (sorry @Stargazer), my Oxford English Dictionary defines 'football' as describing the main code in the country of origin.
The examples include, football in UK = association football/soccer. USA = american football. NZ = Rugby Union. Pretty sure (from memory) that AUS = Aussie Rules.
Edit: I looked it up a few years ago when having a discussion with someone ... basically I'm an anorak on the internet
